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Rail and stile bits. Cant find anywhere :(

Discussion in 'Wood / Woodwork / Carpentry' started by ari2019, 10 Jan 2019.

  1. ari2019

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    Does anyone know where i can get these rail and stile bits brand new or worst case, buy second hand. Its for a kitchen extension and need to make the extra few doors needed.



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    Your only chance would be a joinery co to knock up a few doors -only poss if the cutters are available
     
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    I can make them if i get the bits. Its finding them though.
     
  4. EddieM

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    Why does it matter?? Must be missing something but you're only gonna see the front on the doors ??
     
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    haha, of course it matters, they have to be the same profile inside. Itll look silly if they arent. Could even do with it being close to it.
     
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    you will never get components only ever complete doors or cutters that need a table and heavy duty router
    if you dont have a router and table the no go iff you have a table then perhaps 5 or 10 % chance off cutters being available or getting cutters cut at a sub £500 level
     
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    Trend do a combination bevel set which is vaguely similar, but to my mind it isn't close enough. Fortunately the profile isn't that complex and the panel appears to be a plain. flat panel so it might be possible to just make up a basic door with a T&G set (fundamentally two groovers, an arbor, bearings and spacers such as these) then apply either a bought-in beading (if you can find one to match in the right species) or rout your own beading (it looks like it could be produced using a non-bearing chamfer cutter). The back detail will look slightly different, but that's probably a lot less significant). All this pre-supposes that you can dimension the stock to start with and that you have a router (you can make a basic router table from a piece of plywood and a lump of 2 x 2in PSE softwood if you don't have one)

    Edit: Thinking about it you are looking for a set which resembles a T&GV cutter set, such as these by Infinity. If you can't find anything here you might be as well off looking at US suppliers such as Whiteside, MLCS, Eagle America, Amana, etc.
     
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    Having a look at the trend bits, i might go with them and add a small think piece of squared timber along the bottom of the slope however ive never cut anything so thin.
    I have a small diy router table and an ebaur 1/2 router. Im sure this should be ok. The original doors are oak however they are getting painted grey. Im thinking of making these new doors in pine since they are going to get painted or other cheaper material.
     
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    But, but, but... the first picture doesn't relate to how the front of the door looks (2nd picture) or at least it doesn't have to. in other words you're only trying to replicate the top bit of the profile, not the whole lot.
     
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    The safest way is to make-up your moulded section on the edge of a wider board then rip saw it off on a table saw
     
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    what you mean doesnt relate to how it looks?
     
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    how?
     
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    Cut the exposed profile on a wider board, then rip to suit. The joint is irrelevant.
     
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    You need a ring porous hardwood to get a grain match under paint.

    Typically oak or ash

    As said above, it would look the same if done as a shaker door with beading.

    It could even be butt jointed and screwed then beaded both sides.
     
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