RCD & smoke detectors legal requirement
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Under BS7671 it is not a requirment to have an RCD installed unless
You have fixed appliances in the outside zones of a bathroom, and or, you have socket outlets which you are using to power outdoor equipment, IE your lawn mower out the kitchen window, thats a NO NO
Or heres the tricky one. If you have a TT earthing arrangment, which is normally your supply into the premises from overhead lines, and your own earth rod/stake is installed in the ground, and the earth loop impedance is a high reading ( according to tables in BS7671) then an RCD is required at a rating of 30mA as a method of protection of indirect shock
Please clear it up anyone who has the regs on hand.
It is said to be good practice to have an RCD installed.
As far as i am aware there is no need for a mains fire alarm if renting domestically. The implication starts with emergency lighting and fire alarm systems when there are more than so many people in the house and it is considered as a guest house ie B&B or hotel.
You have fixed appliances in the outside zones of a bathroom, and or, you have socket outlets which you are using to power outdoor equipment, IE your lawn mower out the kitchen window, thats a NO NO
Or heres the tricky one. If you have a TT earthing arrangment, which is normally your supply into the premises from overhead lines, and your own earth rod/stake is installed in the ground, and the earth loop impedance is a high reading ( according to tables in BS7671) then an RCD is required at a rating of 30mA as a method of protection of indirect shock
Please clear it up anyone who has the regs on hand.
It is said to be good practice to have an RCD installed.
As far as i am aware there is no need for a mains fire alarm if renting domestically. The implication starts with emergency lighting and fire alarm systems when there are more than so many people in the house and it is considered as a guest house ie B&B or hotel.
Sorry Yorkyboy, just a standing members joke.
To answer your question, If you're buying the house get an inspection done first which will highlight any areas that don't meet the current regulations which would normally include no RCD. You can use this test certificate to haggle a bit of the sale price. Smoke detectors are not compulsory in most houses unless they have 3 floors.
If you're renting then the installation should be up to current regs so in most cases you should see an RCD but unless it's a shared property you may not get smoke detectors.
To answer your question, If you're buying the house get an inspection done first which will highlight any areas that don't meet the current regulations which would normally include no RCD. You can use this test certificate to haggle a bit of the sale price. Smoke detectors are not compulsory in most houses unless they have 3 floors.
If you're renting then the installation should be up to current regs so in most cases you should see an RCD but unless it's a shared property you may not get smoke detectors.
Pensdown said:I see you're in Leeds. From what I've seen you'll be lucky if you get a consumer unit.
Take that back! We've got two consumer units in Leeds.
(Crafty is right about the earth though)
Back to the point,
Yorkyboy, are you enquiring from the perspective of a landlord or a tennant?
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RF Lighting said:
However, they're both in the back of your car, and they have your name on....
I've never seen Ding's, but I have shown him mine
Thanks guys. Nice to know notg everyone takes the p*** out of us northern folk. One more comment and I'l set me whippet on yer.
Pens... The legal requirement for an RCD. I am aware that PartP states RCDs. I am currently looking to buy a property ad being told by the vendor that RCDs are nota legal requirement for existing installations unles alterations have been made since the regulation came into force.
When did RCDs become a legal requirement and is it the case that it only becomes legal for existing installations when there are alterations made?
I am considering using this for negotiation.
Cheers
Pens... The legal requirement for an RCD. I am aware that PartP states RCDs. I am currently looking to buy a property ad being told by the vendor that RCDs are nota legal requirement for existing installations unles alterations have been made since the regulation came into force.
When did RCDs become a legal requirement and is it the case that it only becomes legal for existing installations when there are alterations made?
I am considering using this for negotiation.
Cheers
Where does Part P state RCDs?
The iee are non-retrospective hence if the installation complied with the regs on the day it was installed there is no requirement to upgrade it.
Any alterations / additions should seen the earthing and bonding brought up to the standards of the day. The existing install should have been checked that it can take any additional load. The circuit involved should also have been brought up to date.
Any domestic work done today in England / Wales must comply with part p i.e. "P1 Reasonable provision shall be made in the design and installation of electrical installations in order to protect persons operating, maintaining or altering the installations from fire or injury. "
One method of compliance is to follow BS7671 which although in itself is non-statutory, is one recognised method of complying with Part P which is statutory.
The iee are non-retrospective hence if the installation complied with the regs on the day it was installed there is no requirement to upgrade it.
Any alterations / additions should seen the earthing and bonding brought up to the standards of the day. The existing install should have been checked that it can take any additional load. The circuit involved should also have been brought up to date.
Any domestic work done today in England / Wales must comply with part p i.e. "P1 Reasonable provision shall be made in the design and installation of electrical installations in order to protect persons operating, maintaining or altering the installations from fire or injury. "
One method of compliance is to follow BS7671 which although in itself is non-statutory, is one recognised method of complying with Part P which is statutory.
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