re EICR questions - to WhydidIstart

[ban-all-sheds]

In one sense it matters not what logos were on which pages of the report.

To say that your CU needs updating to BS 7671 and that it represents a danger, gives a risk of injury, and immediate action is required are all so egregiously false that they call into question either his honesty, or his basic competence, or both.

Can't remember if it came up in your other thread - have you paid him?

 

[JohnW2]

In one sense it matters not what logos were on which pages of the report.

True - but the absence of "DI" logos on the EICR-specific pages reinforces what NICIEC have said, that they are not prepared to entertain a complaint about an EICR undertaken by someone who they do not regard as 'approved' to undertake EICRs. As I have suggested, the OP could complain to NICIEC about the fact that one of their "Domestic Installer" members was not only undertaking EICRs, but was doing so in a manner which could milead people into thinking that he was 'approved' by NICIEC to undertake such work.

To say that your CU needs updating to BS 7671 and that it represents a danger, gives a risk of injury, and immediate action is required are all so egregiously false that they call into question either his honesty, or his basic competence, or both.

All agreed.

 

[Risteard]

True - but the absence of "DI" logos on the EICR-specific pages reinforces what NICIEC have said, that they are not prepared to entertain a complaint about an EICR undertaken by someone who they do not regard as 'approved' to undertake EICRs. As I have suggested, the OP could complain to NICIEC about the fact that one of their "Domestic Installer" members was not only undertaking EICRs, but was doing so in a manner which could milead people into thinking that he was 'approved' by NICIEC to undertake such work.
All agreed.

<PEDANT>Or even the NICEIC.</PEDANT>

 

[ban-all-sheds]

True - but the absence of "DI" logos on the EICR-specific pages reinforces what NICIEC have said, that they are not prepared to entertain a complaint about an EICR undertaken by someone who they do not regard as 'approved' to undertake EICRs. As I have suggested, the OP could complain to NICIEC about the fact that one of their "Domestic Installer" members was not only undertaking EICRs, but was doing so in a manner which could milead people into thinking that he was 'approved' by NICIEC to undertake such work.

I would suggest that the OP's complaint is with the charlatan who carried out the work.

If he hasn't paid, he shouldn't, and if he has he should consider taking steps to get reimbursed.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I think the problem lies with the NICEIC, who, as usual have made up their own rules, and have invented the spurious term of 'domestic installer' for which there is no official definition or category.

If the so-called 'domestic installers' are only approved for 'installing' in 'domestic' premises then they must be 'approved domestic installers' encompasing all work in domestic premises - unless, of course, it is somehow limited to 'installing'; not maintenance or repairs etc..
As this is now, in England, only required for the three types of notifiable work - if the electrician wants to self-certify(self-notify), what control or authority do they have over all the other work that might be done in domestic premises?
Is the electrician allowed to issue NICEIC certificates for non-notifiable work? If so, then why not EICRs other than they can charge more for something which is not necessary? Is it their fault for not ensuring the electrician is competent to carry out EICRs when merely 'approved' for 'domestic installing'?

It might be true that people think a NICEIC membership guarantees a good standard of work and knowledge but this is not really the case.



Incidentally, what inspection or verification of work do they do to an electrician for him to become an 'approved contractor'? Does this include testing to carry out EICRs?

 

[JohnW2]

<PEDANT>Or even the NICEIC.</PEDANT>

True.

Kind Regards, John

 

[WhydidIstart]

The threads have become messy after the original one was locked, I suggest we move to https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/eicr-questions.523676 as it has more info - I will respond there.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Unfortunately the Moderators decided to block me from replying in that topic, for no reason.

 

[donrkebab]

It might be true that people think a NICEIC membership guarantees a good standard of work and knowledge but this is not really the case.

Incidentally, what inspection or verification of work do they do to an electrician for him to become an 'approved contractor'? Does this include testing to carry out EICRs?

All it guarantees is that the member has paid his membership fee, and therefore knows all he needs to know. Just like all trade organisations, the main objective is collecting fees.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

And NICEIC started the race to the bottom in registering people who weren't real electricians not long after the concept of Competent Person schemes was added to the Building Regulations.