Reform did well. Again.

[JohnD]

No, but there will be more pensioners that rely on the winter fuel allowance than a disability benefit. The two are not connected regardless. It would be such a headache differentiating who needs the fuel allowance and would be more expensive than simply paying it to all.

If the State Pension was increased by £300 above inflation, would you continue to demand that rich pensioners should receive an additional £300 on top?

 

[motorbiking]

Nigel Farage, leader of Reform party proudly stated he would be abolishing all working from home jobs.
The Reform party is currently advertising for 9 jobs which all include working from home.

And Andrea Jenkyns is going to sack all diversity officers in the council where she is Mayor…..although they don’t actually employ a single diversity officer.


Reform are getting off to a good start

Freedom of information request, suggest they may have fibbed, LinkedIn shows they employ several.

Andrea Jenkyns Was Right: Lincolnshire Council’s DEI Denial Doesn’t Hold Up

New Lincolnshire Mayor, Andrea Jenkyns’ critics dismissed her DEI pledge — but evidence suggests she’s right, and the council may not be telling the full story. In the days following newly elected Lincolnshire Mayor Dame Andrea Jenkyns’ pledge to remove “diversity officers” from the county...

conservativepost.co.uk

 

[motorbiking]

I paid into the system for many years and am now a pensioner. I am lucky enough not to be poor and do not need the winter fuel allowance. Why do you think I should get it?

answered in your own post.

Some benefits should be universal, because people pay in. It is as simple as that.

Do you think wealthy people who pay 10s of thousands or even 100s of thousands in tax, should not receive a state pension? Should it just be reserved for people who paid very little in?

 

[blup]

answered in your own post.

Some benefits should be universal, because people pay in. It is as simple as that.

Do you think wealthy people who pay 10s of thousands or even 100s of thousands in tax, should not receive a state pension? Should it just be reserved for people who paid very little in?

It wasn’t a benefit, it was a naked bribe to pensioners to vote torey. More like a tax break for the better off

 

[motorbiking]

It wasn’t a benefit, it was a naked bribe to pensioners to vote torey. More like a tax break for the better off

what do you think scrapping it will do?

 

[blup]

what do you think scrapping it will do?

More votes for re form, split the Tory vote

 

[Notch7]

suggest they may have fibbed

No they didn’t fib

Your right wing propaganda link states:

“The FOI response cited in media coverage is dated 27 March 2025, and it answers a specific question: whether the council employed any roles titled “Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DEI) Officer” during 2022, 2023, or 2024. The answer, truthfully and narrowly, was “no”.”

It’s true there may have been 1 person in a role of a simple title

LinkedIn shows they employ several.

No that’s not what it says

It says there are a few people with jobs that include equality and diversity


Your article imply there might be a handful of people involved in diversity and equality……but given the council employs 5,000 is Andrea Jenkyns wanting to save money or is she just doing it for a culture war?

Motorbiking if the council get rid of anybody involved in diversity, will the council be able to comply with the law:

“Businesses are legally obligated to ensure their policies and practices are free from discrimination and to promote equality and diversity in the workplace. This includes implementing policies and practices that address discrimination, promote equal opportunities, and foster a respectful and inclusive work environment”

 

[motorbiking]

Conservatives are toast unless they wake up and make changes. Kemi isnotgoodenough. Reform take votes from both. Some analysis suggest a hung parliament with a ConRef coalition. Another 4 years to go, so a long time for everyone to improve or screw up.

Motorbiking if the council get rid of anybody involved in diversity, will the council be able to comply with the law:

“Businesses are legally obligated to ensure their policies and practices are free from discrimination and to promote equality and diversity in the workplace. This includes implementing policies and practices that address discrimination, promote equal opportunities, and foster a respectful and inclusive work environment”

Yes - There is no such law worded as above. Their obligations are to comply with the Equality Act. They do not need to promote anything. They of course should want to widen their talent pool.

 

[Mottie]

I paid into the system for many years and am now a pensioner. I am lucky enough not to be poor and do not need the winter fuel allowance. Why do you think I should get it?

Being "lucky enough not to be poor", presumably you also don’t need a personal tax allowance, a personal savings allowance and tax-free interest earnings on your isa's and premium bond winnings. Do you make use of those allowances?

John, John. Oh holy righteous one. You forgot to answer my question.

 

[Notch7]

Their obligations are to comply with the Equality Act.

and can they do that without employing people in a diversity role given the council have 5000 employees?

They of course should want to widen their talent pool.

So they do need to encourage people from a range of backgrounds / ethnicities / religions

I am pleased to hear you believe businesses should think about diversity

 

[motorbiking]

and can they do that without employing people in a diversity role given the council have 5000 employees?


So they do need to encourage people from a range of backgrounds / ethnicities / religions

I am pleased to hear you believe businesses should think about diversity

they do not need to have any positive action policies to comply with the law. I cannot state it any simpler than that.

A quick look at their website suggests quite a lot of material on DEI and positive action, which must have been developed by someone.

 

[Notch7]

they do not need to have any positive action policies to comply with the law. I cannot state it any simpler than that.

I never said they needed positive action policies

I said: can they fulfill the requirements of the equality act without employing anybody in a diversity role?

can you answer that directly?

A quick look at their website suggests quite a lot of material on DEI and positive action

please can you provide a few examples, as Ive had a look and its not obvious to me

 

[motorbiking]

What is positive action? :: Lincolnshire One Workforce

www.oneworkforcelincs.co.uk

The Importance of Diverse Panel representation :: Lincolnshire One Workforce

www.oneworkforcelincs.co.uk

If you click the breadcrumbs you will find a mini portal.

I said: can they fulfill the requirements of the equality act without employing anybody in a diversity role?

can you answer that directly?

Yes. They must prevent discrimination as protected by the act. They do not need to have any diversity roles, policies etc. These are "strategic" goals, not legal requirements and many employers take it way too far.

Opportunities @ Creative Access

This page lists all our Positive action scheme and Open to all opportunities within the creative sector that we Creative access supports

opportunities.creativeaccess.org.uk

 

[Notch7]

Yes. They must prevent discrimination as protected by the act. They do not need to have any diversity roles, policies etc. These are "strategic" goals, not legal requirements and many employers take it way too far.

you still havent answered the question

I wasnt asking whether they had to have diversity roles, policies etc

I was asking whether a large employer can "prevent discrimination as protected by the act" without employing anybody in such a role

many employers take it way too far.

Lincolnshire county council seems to have maybe one person in such a role and maybe 2 or 3 other that have a role that might have some involvement

is that way too far??



Andrea Jenkyns has made it one of her top policies to get rid of such roles -so in a council employing 5000 people, its going to save maybe 2 jobs

it is just a culture war, its dog whistle politics

do you agree that is not going to make any difference to the country at all...................

 

[motorbiking]

I was asking whether a large employer can "prevent discrimination as protected by the act" without employing anybody in such a role

I would suggest it doesn't make much difference. The act has been around for 15 years, these roles are relatively new. Unfortunately, lobby groups provide "consultancy" which is often misguided.

Andrea Jenkyns has made it one of her top policies to get rid of such roles -so in a council employing 5000 people, its going to save maybe 2 jobs

it is just a culture war, its dog whistle politics

do you agree that is not going to make any difference to the country at all...................

whether you think its good or bad, there are a lot of DEI jobs in the UK public sector. Around 1/3rd £Bn in wages.

https://findajob.dwp.gov.uk/search?q=diversity+inclusion&w=

I suspect there weren't many 10 years ago.