Just how many parish councilors so you need?

[Andydevon]

I am minded of a colleague who was incredibly Welsh positive he did not vote for devolution ( lived in Cardiff) because it just created another Parish Council in Wales. They may have more limited powers now but at what cost?

Just how many MPs do you need to change a light bulb?

Senedd expansion plans get go-ahead in Cardiff Bay vote

Senedd to be expanded and new voting system introduced, after final Cardiff Bay vote on the plans.

www.bbc.co.uk

And why the **** should I pay through my Taxes for this?

 

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Parish councillors

Jeez us wept down this way they had some meeting (s) about buying a new wheel barrow for the part time church yard gardener

They all turned up including some one to keep the minutes and banged on about buying a 30 quid (?) wheel barrow fir best part of an hour

A meeting over that ffs if they bunged in a couple of quid it could have been sorted with out some meeting

Than you have a couple of the old duffers dressing up in there day glo jackets ounce a month with there speed cameras doing there bit for the community

Pair of twonks

 

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Than we had some community friend some woman posting flyers through the door apparently you can contact her with your problems / issues

Such as ?? Personal issues ? Errctial dysfunction

 

[Brigadier]

Parish councillors

Jeez us wept down this way they had some meeting (s) about buying a new wheel barrow for the part time church yard gardener

They all turned up including some one to keep the minutes and banged on about buying a 30 quid (?) wheel barrow fir best part of an hour

A meeting over that ffs if they bunged in a couple of quid it could have been sorted with out some meeting

All covered in Parkinson's Law: a very good read

 

[Odds]

I thought Parkinson's Law only applied within the border of Yorkshire?

 

[motorbiking]

People who have achieved no level of senior leadership or authority in their working life, need some form of outlet when they are retired. it's important that they are kept busy and out of the way. I see no better role than councillor or parish councillor. If you do away with these roles there is a risk that they become tomorrow's suicide bombers.

 

[Brigadier]

Parish councillors

Jeez us wept down this way they had some meeting (s) about buying a new wheel barrow for the part time church yard gardener

They all turned up including some one to keep the minutes and banged on about buying a 30 quid (?) wheel barrow fir best part of an hour

A meeting over that ffs if they bunged in a couple of quid it could have been sorted with out some meeting

Parkinson's Law

Funny, but because it is rooted in a truth many of us have experienced, has also stood the test of time.

In PL, Studies in Administration, CN Parkinson uses the example of the meeting about the construction of a nuclear power station.

IIRC - I've lent the book to a friend - the abridged version is:

- on the subject of the reactor itself, the discussion only lasts a couple of minutes (and commits further millions of spend); this is because only two attendees know anything at all about the subject, so no-one else has an opinion to offer
- on the subject of the roof on the proposed cycle shed, everyone knows what a roof is, and most have a grasp of concepts such as corrugated cement, or galvanised steel. So they all chip in, and the discussion - over a poxy few quid for a trivial item - takes ten times longer than did the reactor agenda item.

 

[Odds]

I prefer the camel analogy when it comes to describing a committee.

 

[Brigadier]

I prefer the camel analogy when it comes to describing a committee.

That's an analogy for another aspect of committee life though, and not relevant to the post to which I originally responded.

 

[Odds]

Close enough, i thought, as it seems you're getting at as a cacophony of opinions bring a convoluted conclusion to the committee meeting whereby a camel is produced by the time everyone is too horse to continue.

 

[ajohn]

Politics in general eg from the wiki
Much of the essay is dedicated to a summary of purportedly scientific observations supporting the law, such as the increase in the number of employees at the Colonial Office while the British Empire declined (he showed that it had its greatest number of staff when it was folded into the Foreign Office due to a lack of colonies to administer). He explained this growth using two forces: (1) "An official wants to multiply subordinates, not rivals", and (2) "Officials make work for each other." He noted that the number employed in a bureaucracy rose by 5–7% per year "irrespective of any variation in the amount of work (if any) to be done".

Cabinet members need advisors as they don't really fully understand the field they are responsible for. A few are better than that. Advisors are often needed to forecast the end result of changes.

Various independent bodies are needed to monitor various aspects.

Meetings, committees. enquiries and aspects like the minutes, procedures, records etc. Well they are what they are.

 

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There is some community who got the last 30 years have been hanging flower baskets in the high street ( Cambridge way afaik)

Now the local council says they have to go on some HSE course to continue doing so

Jobs worth Waste of space Pencil pushers / paper shufflers / quangos ect ect with some jumped up job title so as to give them some importance ???

Vision technician meaning they are window cleaners

Hygiene specialist meaning they are cleaners

Ect ect

 

[motorbiking]

You wont feel the same, if a daisy falls on your head.