regs book options?

[ColJack]

in the electronic age, all BS standards should be free to download..

how can they expect people to comply with them if they don't know what they say?

sure they'd have to charge for printed copies to cover the cost of printing and distribution..

 

[ban-all-sheds]

There's more to the cost of producing a BS standard than just printing and distribution - who should pay those, and how?

 

[ColJack]

the same people that pay for the laws we have to abide by..

they come up with a set of rules that we HAVE to follow and then charge us for the privalige of knowing what those rules are.. it's stupid..


at the very least, is you buy a publication that references different BS standards ( such as the wiring regs ) then you should have a code with it to enable access to a website to view the relavent BS standards..

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Laws, which you have to follow, are freely available.

Regulations which are optional (e.g. BS 7671) are not.

Nobody HAS to follow BS 7671 if they choose not to.

in the electronic age, all BS standards should be free to download..

I agree that would be very nice, but there's no way it can be reasonably justified...

 

[Spark123]

Nobody HAS to follow BS 7671 if they choose not to.

With the exception of having to notify certain work carried out within the zones of a bathroom as defined by the 16th edn regs

 

[ColJack]

would you be able to sell a fuse made in india that fits the same as a BS88 but didn't comply to it's standard?
or a socket outlet?
or a plug?

 

[Spark123]

Yes
I would not however be able to sell it as compliant with any of those standards.

If there is a legal consumer standard which requires equipment to be to that type then there is little leeway for not complying with it and supplying it with something which is not fit for purpose such as a schuko plug.

Spot the mistake: http://cpc.farnell.com/pro-elec/is1053/16a-240v-socket-to-13a-plug/dp/PL09459

 

[maltaron]

The mistake: Current rating cannot be greater than 13 amp

 

[ban-all-sheds]

With the exception of having to notify certain work carried out within the zones of a bathroom as defined by the 16th edn regs

No - no exception.

The fact that the rules regarding notification refer to a definition in BS 7671 does not mean that you have to comply with BS 7671.

At a higher level, the Building Regulations refer to definitions on a map (i.e. the definition of where England and Wales are), but that doesn't mean you have to comply with a map.


Or did you mean that in order to comply with the law you have to know what the definition is, and to do that, in theory, you need access to BS 7671:2001?

 

[Spark123]

The second bit
You have to have access to a "Paid for document" in order to know what the definition of a special location is in order to be able to comply with the law.

 

[Spark123]

The mistake: Current rating cannot be greater than 13 amp

Nah - there is a bigger boo-boo

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Doesn't the free Approved Document have it?

 

[LiamPope]

Doesn't the free Approved Document have it?

Come on - if it was in there, you'd know off the top of your head on which page it was. Ergo it's not in there.

(it really isn't - I checked a little while ago)

So BS7671 should be freeeeeee! Woohooooo!

 

[Spark123]

Not as far as I know - ADP defines it differently to BS7671.
ADP would have you believe that adding to a circuit etc within the walls of the bathroom is notifiable, not just within the zones as defined by the law with reference to BS7671:2001.

 

[Spark123]

So BS7671 should be freeeeeee! Woohooooo!

I agree that all statutory legislation should be free, referring to non-statutory documents in law which you have to pay for imo makes a mockery of the whole system.