Ring circuit with only spurs in a kitchen

[James_H]

Surely the fact that the freezer is plugged in would - in most cases - be enough to suggest the socket is not reasonably likely to power outdoor portable equipment? Especially if there is only one place for the freezer to go.

Would any reasonable person be expected to unplug the freezer and defrost all the food to power something outside instead of using one of the other free sockets?

Documentation simply in the form of a sticker on the socket with 'Fridge/Freezer only' would be better and surely enough.

 

[Qedelec]

Murphy's laws apply.

I was pulled up over a non-RCD outlet on the cooker circuit when the householder would have needed to pass 2 internal and one external RCD protected sockets to plug in so you cant assume anything. What happens to a blind person, they can't tell what colour the socket is and a 2 foot high notice will not be read.

Much safer to make it impossible to plug another appliance into the outlet.

 

[Gary0]

Ah their eyes may glaze over, but your back is covered

Hmmm...now to avoid too much additional work I just need to find a 2 gang georgian round pin socket... fat chance. Ah well.... maybe it doesn't need to 'match' behind the freezer anyway.

Sorry Scooby!, best pull this thread back on course again

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Tell me again which planet you live on ban. Documetation goes over the heads of most consumers, their eyes glaze over after the first paragraph

IRDGAS. I think it is reasonable to expect someone to read information that could save their lives.

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Surely the fact that the freezer is plugged in would - in most cases - be enough to suggest the socket is not reasonably likely to power outdoor portable equipment? Especially if there is only one place for the freezer to go.

Would any reasonable person be expected to unplug the freezer and defrost all the food to power something outside instead of using one of the other free sockets?

Documentation simply in the form of a sticker on the socket with 'Fridge/Freezer only' would be better and surely enough.

What happens when you move out?

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Murphy's laws apply.

I was pulled up over a non-RCD outlet on the cooker circuit when the householder would have needed to pass 2 internal and one external RCD protected sockets to plug in so you cant assume anything.

Pulled up by whom? Clearly someone who didn't know what the word "reasonable" meant...

What happens to a blind person, they can't tell what colour the socket is and a 2 foot high notice will not be read.

You have a point there.

 

[kai]

Simpler still, use a 13amp Switched Fuse-Connection with Neon Lamp to supply the Fridge/Freezer, problem solved.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I just need to find a 2 gang georgian round pin socket

Did the Georgians have electricity? I thought it all happened later...

 

[Softus]

I realise that what I'm about to write will probably lower b-a-s's credibility, but IMHO he lives on planet Sensible, in the small town of Pragmatic, and his house is always open to the naive and inexperienced. This forum needs more of his kind.

 

[Gary0]

It just hit the floor mate.

Another FSU eh ? Hmmm.... now that's a thought.