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Discussion in 'In the Garden' started by sodthisforfun, 11 Aug 2018.

  1. sodthisforfun

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  2. bernardgreen

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    How soon before headlines read :-

    A man who was crippled when he drove his car into a tree has sued the manufacturers of the car for damages.
    This may lead to a ban on the use of cars.

    An electrician who was injured by an electric shock has sue the piwer company for damages.
    This may lead to a ban on the use of electricity
     
  3. Notch7

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    The EU have tried to ban Glyphosate.

    It looks like ban will happen in 2022.

    There are no weedkiller alternatives so will cause issues in farming.

    There are many campaigns in US to ban it. Apparently there is no intention to ban guns as they are entirely safe.
     
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    a rather contentious claim

    It would be interesting to see how notch thinks that if the EU as a whole wanted to ban glyphosate, an outside body would prevent it.

    The truth is that the EU has discussed it at great length and has repeatedly renewed the approval.
     
  5. NotSoNewboy

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    Not so contentious really.

    In late 2017, the European Parliament (those people elected by the citizens of the EU) voted to ban glyphosate by 2022. The vote was non-binding and the Commission (those people not voted for by the citizens of Europe) had recommended the license be renewed for ten years then changed it's recommendation to 5 additional years this then failed to reach the required majority. A report by the European Parliament expressed it's serious concerns about the influence that Monsanto was alleged to have had over some of the research on which the decisions had been based.

    In 2015 the WHO stated that the active substance was probably carcinogenic only to reverse it's position about twelve months later. The ECHA has not classified the substance as a carcinogen but states that it "poses a serious risk to the environment"
     
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  6. NotSoNewboy

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    Hardly useful analogies.

    The allegation (seemingly now validated by the test case) is that the product (glyphosate) is carcinogenic - something the main manufacturer denied. If cars routinely drove into trees due to a design flaw then the driver may have a case (and indeed have done in previous cases).

    The situation with glyphosate draws analogies to that of cigarette manufacturers who are alleged to have known about the carcinogens into tobacco smoke but suppressed or influenced the research.
     
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  7. sodthisforfun

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    I had no idea that farmers used it to speed up harvest, spraying all our food. Seems excessive and I think some places are going to ban that practice?
     
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    Analogies about the mis-use of a product which when used properly is not hazardous.

    I am not saying glyphosate is not carcinogenic
     
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    Totally irrelevant...

    That's what you'd say to anyone else (y)
     
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