Shaver Socket In Mirror Cabinet

[securespark]

I have a mirror cabinet with lighting and a built in shaver socket.

The retailer sent an electrician over to check if it was earthed, as apparently, some were not.

He also checked to see if the shaver socket had an isolating transformer fitted.

The electrician checked the earth by looking to see if a CPC was connected (it was).

He checked the shaver socket to see if it had an IT fitted (it did not).

He also checked the position of the cabinet to make sure it was outside the zones (it was).

He declared it safe as apparently the socket outlet only needs an IT if it is in Z1. He also declared it safe as there was a CPC connected.

Regs say except for SELV sockets and shaver supply units complying with 61558-2-5, no socket outlets should be installed within 3m of the boundary of Z1.

 

[flameport]

The only conclusion is that the 'electrician' was in reality someone who had been shown how to check a couple of specific items and that was all.

 

[securespark]

Am I right in thinking that it should have an IT?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

He checked the shaver socket to see if it had an IT fitted (it did not).

How come the retailer didn't know what he'd been selling?

He also checked the position of the cabinet to make sure it was outside the zones (it was).

How far outside?

 

[flameport]

Am I right in thinking that it should have an IT?

Yes, if it's within 3m of the bath edge.

The non-isolated sockets are not intended for use in UK bathrooms, but can be used in most other countries.

 

[securespark]

Not sure the distance makes a difference (as long as it is outside) but the side of the cabinet nearest to the shower cubicle is 65cm away.

 

[securespark]

Yes, if it's within 3m of the bath edge.

1.79m.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Too close to not have an IT.

 

[securespark]

Yeah. But the retailer is adamant that they have fulfilled their obligations.
I feel a stiffly-worded letter coming on.

 

[securespark]

Not sure the distance makes a difference

Now I see what you're getting at, Ban. 3 m plus wouldn't be an issue.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Yeah. But the retailer is adamant that they have fulfilled their obligations.
I feel a stiffly-worded letter coming on.

Did they describe it as complying with 61558-2-5?

 

[securespark]

When it was sold you mean? Don't know. But it doesn't.

 

[securespark]

It was, however, sold as a product to be fitted in bathrooms.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

In which zones, or how far from them?

It is not the retailers fault if you put it where it shouldn't be if they had accurately described it.

But if they did say it had a transformer, or did say it could be installed "in bathrooms", then they are liable.

 

[securespark]

Well, I think they are acting liable.

They sent a letter saying that in some cases the unit could present a risk of electric shock because a), it may not be earthed and b), it may need an IT fitting. They said if it was necessary, it would be rectified by their "qualified electrician".