Should asylum seekers be allowed to work while their claim is processed

[Harry Bloomfield]

Asylum seekers are allowed to work in Germany after 3 months, 65% choose not to.

So we would need to import three for everyone who might prove worthy, whilst supporting the other two. Seems less than a bargain.

 

[fillyboy]

Not this many. Usually there is unemployment. We need workers.

Asylum seekers and refugees are not workers. Look at the unemployment rates for that demographic in Europe.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Not this many. Usually there is unemployment. We need workers.

There is still unemployment and always will be. To have none, employees need to match employers requirements for skills. Will any of the migrants match what is needed?

 

[transam]

Well let’s hope that there thousands of hgv drivers in the boats coming over from France

 

[Notch7]

If refugees are paying their lifesaving to people smugglers, why doesn’t the govt get them to pay their money direct to us in exchange for a safe passage and a job….cut out the middle man.

every Brexit voter can house one

 

[transam]

If refugees are paying their lifesaving to people smugglers, why doesn’t the govt get them to pay their money direct to us in exchange for a safe passage and a job….cut out the middle man.

every Brexit voter can house one

er no why should brexit voters house em or dip there hands in there pockets

than you have the issue of unaccompanied children that some how the French scoundrels failed to notice that turn up in Kent via Calais

that are stretching Kent social services to breaking point

 

[JohnD]

Brexit voters are busy picking vegetables or working in care homes.

Aren't they?

Which care home are you in this week?

 

[transam]

Brexit voters are busy picking vegetables or working in care homes.

Aren't they?

Which care home are you in this week?

none

but I have worked in care homes and a hospital

 

[Justin Passing]

It's set in international law, it's perfectly acceptable to enter a foreign country and claim asylum.
Anyone can pass through as many 'safe' countries as it takes to arrive at a safe country.
Any country that denies at least the opportunity of having their application assessed is acting against international law, Poland ,and Italy included. They are not acting within EU law, nor even within the spirit of the EU.

What you consider to be safe may not be safe for everyone.
Agreed, they can be assessed while in a detention centre, but it is more humane and civilised to only lock up those who have committed a crime, or are seriously considered to be intending to commit a crime. Then there is the issue of splitting up families, it's a complex issue and simple, broad brush stroke solutions are not the answer.

What like broad brush let them all in solution ? I agree, it's not the answer.

EU is supporting Poland, that'll do. We might annoy the French - nothing new there.
The boat people aren't setting off for our Customs, they're entering our waters without permission, to land on some beach god knows where.
Are you trying to say France isn't safe?

Have a procedure, execute it, and prevent bypassers.


Maybe I'm reviewing the "working" question. Make them work, however they get here. In a controlled way under supervision of course. That would give us a better picture of who they really are.

 

[AngleEyes]

Asylum seekers are allowed to work in Germany after 3 months, 65% choose not to.

Source of your information?
How many of those that are eligible to work and choose to work are of working age?
Would it be about 35% by any chance?
Another source, other than yours suggests that more than 50% choose to work and are employed.

In 2015, large numbers of refugees fleeing war and terrorism in Syria, Afghanistan, and Iraq arrived on Europe’s shores. Fear and uncertainty reigned—who would give these people asylum and how would they integrate? The German Chancellor, Angela Merkel, remained undaunted. “We can do this!” she announced in August of that year. And do this, they did. In 2015 and 2016, Germany received over one million first-time asylum applications.

Five years later, over half of these refugees have found a job, and public support for immigration remains high.
https://www.cgdev.org/blog/five-years-later-one-million-refugees-are-thriving-germany
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And another source suggests 49% find work within five years:

A new study published on Tuesday found that 49% of refugees who have come to Germany since 2013 were able to find steady employment within five years of arriving.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-half-of-refugees-find-jobs-within-five-years/a-52251414​

 

[AngleEyes]

What like broad brush let them all in solution ? I agree, it's not the answer.

EU is supporting Poland, that'll do. We might annoy the French - nothing new there.
The boat people aren't setting off for our Customs, they're entering our waters without permission, to land on some beach god knows where.
Are you trying to say France isn't safe?

They say no such thing. They prefer to come to UK, plain and simple. There is information provided elsewhere for why that is.

Have a procedure, execute it, and prevent bypassers.

Applying for asylum is not bypassing anything, that is the process!

Maybe I'm reviewing the "working" question. Make them work, however they get here. In a controlled way under supervision of course. That would give us a better picture of who they really are.

Check the Germany picture (not that fake news reported by fillyboy)

 

[AngleEyes]

Asylum seekers and refugees are not workers. Look at the unemployment rates for that demographic in Europe.

Why don't you show us what you have found, with the link to your sources, instead of making bland statements.

 

[JP_]

They prefer to come to UK, plain and simple.

You mean, a minority of asylum seekers and refugees prefer to come to the UK.

Most do not come to the UK.

 

[JP_]

Asylum seekers and refugees are not workers. Look at the unemployment rates for that demographic in Europe.

In the last discussion we had, some people claimed that all migrants were economic migrants. Now you are saying that they are not workers at all.

At least you now agree that they are asylum seekers.

 

[Bosswhite]

What like broad brush let them all in solution ? I agree, it's not the answer.

EU is supporting Poland, that'll do. We might annoy the French - nothing new there.
The boat people aren't setting off for our Customs, they're entering our waters without permission, to land on some beach god knows where.
Are you trying to say France isn't safe?

Have a procedure, execute it, and prevent bypassers.


Maybe I'm reviewing the "working" question. Make them work, however they get here. In a controlled way under supervision of course. That would give us a better picture of who they really are.

The Boat People are perfectly entitled to enter our Territorial Waters under Maritime law , a vessel may enter Territorial Waters or pass through it safely, its when they land on our shore the problem begins its not up to the French to stop them despite what Patel wants them to do .
To make them work when they arrive then falls under " Slave Labour"