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should i glue chipboard flooring together

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I have some 2400 x 600 22mm chipboard flooring
I was not going to glue the join
i have some D4 glue - and also have PVA

should i glue all the sheets together - will be 10 sheets wide x the 2400
and then infills for the 230mm gap - cutting the sheet the other other way - so 2400 x 230 (less 10mm expansion gap)
 
Good quality PVA to glue. Helps stop creaking.

Two of these makes it easier.
Nope, D4 (PU) is what manufacturers like Egger and Caberdecor actually specify (and is what they supply under their own name). The glue is applied to the tops of the joists and into the grooves. If you start with the groove side towards the wall (so the groove is left visible) boards can be pulled up quickly and efficiently by setting a 4 to 6ft length of 4 x 2in stud against the edge of a board, standing with your legs apart, toes on top of the piece of stud, heels on top of the chipboard, then giving a gentle tap or two (not smashing it) with a 7lb sledge hammer. Move the stud further along the chipboard and tap again as required to clise up the joints. This technique is far faster than using clamps and I dare say that a cheap skedge us a discarded piece of 4 x 2 will cost less to buy than you'd spend to hire cramps.

My personal feeling is that the PU glue is a bit more flexible (PVA joints aren't flexible and in any case PVA is designed for use on straight, planed joints, not sawn potentially slightly uneven joints as you get with joists) and the gap filling nature of PU helps deal with odd discrepancies and is less likely to creak in the future

OP the boards need to be screwed down one by one as you position them. That's ideally a job for an impact driver rather than a drill as ut will pull up the chopbosrd to the joist better (far faster, too). You will probably also need a couple of bars for the install (16in flat bar and a 24 to 36in wrecking bar) and some packing pieces (bits of stud) to bully small pieces into position and hold them whilst you screw them down (packers against the wall as a fulcrum, bar acting as a lever - the longer your bar the easier it can be)

If you aren't keen on using the sledge hammer technique, home made cramps are easy to make - you basically need to saw 3 or 4 pairs of folding wedges about 6 to 8in long (out of 3 x 2 or 4 x 2 stud). One wedge is screwed to the top of a joist 39 to 40mm off the edge of the board, using a single big screw (5 x 90, etc). The other wedge is inserted between the chipboard and the first wedge. Repeat until you have three or four wedge pairs along the edge of a board. Then tap the loose wedges to close up the gap between the boards. The bigger the hammer the better. Once that board has been fixed down, unscrew the joists and move them ready for the next board. Works with floorboards, too. As you can see I don't use flooring cramps. I never need them
 
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many thanks for the information

Most of it done now - 10 boards down and just the side fill 230mm to do tomorrow and its all done

its a concrete floor , i needed to build up by 65mm ish to level with the bungalow entrance (which other half wanted)
I have used 40mm insulation - Rigid PIR insulation
then 2400mm x 600mm 22mm Chipboard P5 TG4 flooring
Then vinyl covering 2.8mm so 65 mm ish

The D4 Pu glue is great, the one i purchased from toolstation goes off in 30minutes and fully cures in 24hrs

the floor today ( 6 sheets down) all felt really solid and no squeaking
But as i say , almost all complete now
 
For future reference it's fairly normal to lay a thin sheet of plastic on top of thee PIR - that means you don't end up gluing the chipboard to the PIR. Quite often a DPM such as Visqueen is also laid on the concrete before the PIR goes on. If needs be any hollows in the concrete can be taken out by filling with sand before the DPM goes down. The reason for the DPM is that we often can't guarantee the moisture content of the concrete, nor how good the DPM below the concrete is (or in some cases even if there is one).

You csn still use the sledge hammer "tapping technique" on a concrete floor, the only difference is that you need to put some solid packers between the first sheet and the wall.
 
thanks - yes i used a large hammer and wood to bang them togther and have a good joint- we have been using the concrete floor with some carpet tiles on them and had a washing machine and tuble dryer on there - when we lifted the carpet tiles it was bone dry underneath - anyway , a bit too late now - should have thought of the plastic - which i have done in the past
but thanks
I had used sand in the cloakroom as there where gaps etc
But no real gaps on this floor that made me think i needed anything
 

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