Sockets going live

[EFLImpudence]

Not something I've ever come across... can main bonding conductors also be used as circuit earths?

Not really possible - but the CPC can be used as a bonding conductor.

The conductor is now the CPC and also being used for bonding.

Assuming everything is correctly done and sized.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I'd go out on a limb and say absolutely not.

Come back from the limb; it's fine.

I don't have a reg to back it up,

543.2.1

but they're not earths,

They are (it is) now.

they're bonding cables.

They are (it is) that as well.

That's like using an earth in a lightswitch as a neutral because you haven't got one there (without an RCD of course)

That's not allowed.

 

[stillp]

one of those screwdrivers which you touch the top of which lights up to show a live connection

My guess would be that your earth conductor is broken or disconnected somewhere between that garage CU and the house.

Do I win?

 

[Iggifer]

That's like using an earth in a lightswitch as a neutral because you haven't got one there (without an RCD of course)

That's not allowed.

Exactly my point!

 

[EFLImpudence]

...but an earth isn't being used as a neutral; it is being used as a bond - which is allowed.

 

[securespark]

How can it be if:

Re-connected the lights and outside light, no problem.

I didn't test for an earth on the lights...

So what did

no problem.

mean then , seeing as the problem you were looking to fix was no earth?!

 

[skenk]

Again, your opinion.

It's a fact. Your suggesting less division of circuits, not only is it less safe, it's contrary to the regs. Do you have any electrical qualifications winston?

 

[winston1]

Again, your opinion.

It's a fact. Your suggesting less division of circuits, not only is it less safe, it's contrary to the regs. Do you have any electrical qualifications winston?

AMIEE, and you?

There is nothing in the regs to say a garage has to have its own CU. In many cases, including this one, it is not necessary.

 

[deadshort]

FWIW, i think the garage in question requies rewiring from start to finish !

DS

P.S. by an electrician

 

[RF Lighting]

Again, your opinion.

It's a fact. Your suggesting less division of circuits, not only is it less safe, it's contrary to the regs. Do you have any electrical qualifications winston?

AMIEE, and you?

You could have just said no.

There is nothing in the regs to say a garage has to have its own CU. In many cases, including this one, it is not necessary.

In the majority of cases it is a better design to have a consumer unit in a garage. To repeatedly bleat on about it not being required on every garage post we see on here is just wrong, and on the odd occasion where it may be the best design, no one will take any notice of the boy who cried wolf anyway.

 

[securespark]

P.S. buy an electrician

How much are they?

 

[deadshort]

…….. ye ye…….. tooo expensive for you to by !!!

DS