Soldier F.

[Highway Man]

I'd have not a single qualm.

lol I beg to differ.

 

[morqthana]

Doesn't matter how much you beg for it, you'll never get the strength of character I have.

 

[Highway Man]

Doesn't matter how much you beg for it, you'll never get the strength of character I have.

Yeah on an internet forum showing a Palestinian flag and never been there before or even know any Palestinians. You show real strength of character. Muppet.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

...They are incredibly proud of their regiment and extremely tough.

With very poor discipline. Might as well give some arms to a ragbag of druggies, anf send 'em out on the streets:

Colonel Wilford expressed anger at the decision to hold the inquiry and said he was proud of his actions on Bloody Sunday.
One former paratrooper testified that a lieutenant told them the night before Bloody Sunday: "Let's teach these buggers a lesson – we want some kills tomorrow". He did not see anyone with a weapon nor hear any explosions, and said some fellow soldiers were thrilled and were shooting out of bravado or frustration.
Furthermore, guns used by the soldiers on Bloody Sunday, which could have been evidence in the inquiry, were lost by the MoD. The MoD claimed all the guns had been destroyed, but some were later recovered in various locations (such as Sierra Leone and Beirut despite the obstruction.
It concluded, "The firing by soldiers of 1 PARA on Bloody Sunday caused the deaths of 13 people and injury to a similar number, none of whom was posing a threat of causing death or serious injury." It stated that British paratroopers "lost control", shooting fleeing civilians and those who tried to help the wounded.

Bloody Sunday (1972) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Judge Patrick Lynch told Belfast Crown Court that the members of the Parachute Regiment who had entered Glenfada Park North had "totally lost all sense of military discipline".
They had, the judge said, shot "unarmed civilians fleeing from them on the streets of a British city".

Soldier F found not guilty of murder and attempted murder on Bloody Sunday

Thirteen people were shot dead and at least 15 others injured on Bloody Sunday in January 1972 at a civil rights demonstration in the Bogside area of Derry.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Knave of Hearts]

1441 British troops lost their lives during the troubles.

Operation Banner - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If they hadn't been there............

 

[IT Minion]

I don't think most of the people here have even skimmed the Saville report summary. But they're desperate to have an opinion.

Report of the Bloody Sunday Inquiry

This document contains the following information: Report of the Bloody Sunday Inquiry.

www.gov.uk

We've still got people parroting the petrol bombs bullshit story.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Would love to see you say that to even just one of their faces.

Reporting on the findings of the Saville Inquiry in the House of Commons, British Prime Minister David Cameron said:

Mr Speaker, I am deeply patriotic. I never want to believe anything bad about our country. I never want to call into question the behaviour of our soldiers and our army, who I believe to be the finest in the world. And I have seen for myself the very difficult and dangerous circumstances in which we ask our soldiers to serve. But the conclusions of this report are absolutely clear. There is no doubt, there is nothing equivocal, there are no ambiguities. What happened on Bloody Sunday was both unjustified and unjustifiable. It was wrong.

Cameron added: "You do not defend the British Army by defending the indefensible." He acknowledged that all those who died were unarmed when they were killed and that a British soldier had fired the first shots at civilians.

But still some try to defend the indefensible.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Would love to see you say that to even just one of their faces.

What do you think might happen, the ex-soldier would wait for the other person to turn and walk away. The ex-soldier would shoot them in the back? After all they have form for doing that.

 

[Notch7]

But still some try to defend the indefensible.

Yes you call IRA and Hamas “freedom fighters”

Indefensible

 

[Notch7]

If they hadn't been there............

You need to stop trying to put this on the British military


They were there because of the IRA causing trouble.

If the IRA hadn’t caused trouble they wouldn’t have been there

 

[Vinty]

No it absolutely isn't. An army of occupation does not have any legal right to wilfully murder people in that occupied territory.

That is true, but the British army in Ulster is not an army of occupation.

 

[Vinty]

Of the 350 deaths by the security forces, there were only 6 investigations.

All deaths by the security forces were investigated at the time.
Most of the deaths were of IRA terrorists who were in the act of trying to kill innocent people.

 

[Odds]

That is true, but the British army in Ulster is not an army of occupation.

A matter of opinion att...

 

[Vinty]

It doesn't change what the Judge said:

On balance the Paras saved more lives than they took.
If the mob had overrun the Para lines, then the a lot of soldiers and civilians could have died.
If you look at the footage at the time , the rioters outnumbered the security forces and were closing in.

Another point is why did the riot start.
A popular fiction is that the Army opened fire on peaceful 'Civil rights' protesters.
The truth is that the Civil rights march had been rerouted because the original route would have taken them through a Protestant minority enclave in the City.

The organisers of the Civil rights march acceded to the Army request to take a different route but a section of the marchers broke away and tried to force their way through the army barricades , that's when the rioting started.

 

[Vinty]

A matter of opinion att...

It's not an opinion, it's a matter of fact.
N.Ireland or Ulster, which ever you prefer, is part of the UK, and as such the deployment of the army to support the civil authorities was a legal obligation under UK law.