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EddieM
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Speaka da English?
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It's really very common.
An assumption by you, so you can twist the Op's comment into something it isn't, so you can join the club that likes to brand anyone a racist at any given opportunity. Where did he mention the "M" word.
It's you that tried to divert the thread in that direction.
Someone who comes to UK and cannot speak the language?
Unlikely to be able to support themselves - beholden to a "benefactor" (or perhaps the State, although that, too, would likely be via that "benefactor's grace.....)
Unable to function satisfactorily, except in a limited section of society.
Of course, if some of you prefer that some people are treated as subservients, slaves, or whatever...
Unlikely to be able to support themselves - beholden to a "benefactor" (or perhaps the State, although that, too, would likely be via that "benefactor's grace.....)
Unable to function satisfactorily, except in a limited section of society.
Of course, if some of you prefer that some people are treated as subservients, slaves, or whatever...
As usual it's not black and white, no pun intended. A school friend came from Uganda when that nice Mr Idi Amin threw out the East African Asians. Years after leaving school I'd go to his parent's gold jewellers shop, and his sister in law would cook a meal. As far as I know his mum never learnt English, and his dad's English was basic, or at least he never spoke much in English when I saw him. And yet they were honest decent people who contributed to this country, and raised two honest and decent sons who were completely British and of course fluent in English and Gujarati, maybe even Swahili too.
Actually I think it is rather sophisticated, and cultured.
Then you should have said so in the OP which refers to a non specific country.
Actually I think it is rather sophisticated, and cultured.
Then you should have said so in the OP which refers to a non specific country.
I thought the OP was reasonable. It is a valid viewpoint.
I think it's also true to say that "some" don't want to learn the language or integrate.
There is a Turkish guy and his wife that live maybe a mile from me. They've been here 35 years and can still not speak the language. They only mix with the other Turks in the area - no-one else.
There is a Turkish guy and his wife that live maybe a mile from me. They've been here 35 years and can still not speak the language. They only mix with the other Turks in the area - no-one else.
What doesn't seem to have been mentioned is the £20m Cameron has put aside for the teaching of English.
If this is given to the ethnic communities to administer, we all know where most of it will end up.
If this is given to the ethnic communities to administer, we all know where most of it will end up.
And where would that be? I genuinely do not know.
That putrifying cesspit called the Middle East.
And where is your evidence for that assertion? And what would they do with it in the Middle East?
To give one example: a few years ago I saw some posters in one of our university student-union buildings advertising meetings and collections for sending money overseas to help 'the fight against Zionists'. Now, of course, I doubt such a poster would be allowed, but the feelings don't go away.
As for what they would do with any money sent out there, it would not go to buying books for schools, that's for sure.
As for what they would do with any money sent out there, it would not go to buying books for schools, that's for sure.
It's not the inability to speak the language, it's the refusal to learn and integrate into the host country. But at the same time expect everything to be deciphered for them, and complaining when it's not. It's the difference between an inclusive and exclusive society. Between people who want to integrate and make an effort, and those who just want isolation with benefits.
The stats are available as to which people are the more prevalent users. They speak for themselves.
From my own observations it is people from the same countries/cultures who try their hardest to speak English, and insist that their families do too, and those that don't give a toss and carry on like they are back home.
