Spy trial collapses

[carmanmemoranda]

This is about the torey's trying to imprison their own. Stammer, and I don't accept he improperly influenced the trial, has done them a favour. Its ironic that inside information about the torey leadership contest was probably more secure in the hands of a foreign power than it would have been with a British tabloid with an agenda.

Whilst I agree with the points, it has been spun that Starmer is the person responsible.

Yes the Tories and media would like somebody imprisoned if it means they can make Starmer responsible for it

Obviously in the future when more truth came out then Starmer/Labour would be blamed again. A double whammy.

 

[blup]

Whilst I agree with the points, it has been spun that Starmer is the person responsible.

Spun by the toreys who are miffed that the case was dropped, in the cold light of day, having been brought with strong support from the party.

Yes the Tories and media would like somebody imprisoned if it means they can make Starmer responsible for it

I think they wanted justice for the ministers affected. There is a group of sanctioned torey MPs who have done good work exposing espionage concerns, without them we would probably have Chineese built nuclear reactors. But political tittle tattle is not classified information or a threat to the state. The CPS dropped the case not the government, it could have left it to the judge and jury..

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Spun by the toreys who are miffed that the case was dropped, in the cold light of day, having been brought with strong support from the party.

Agreed. Putting Starmer in the position of fall guy, knowing he won't/can't speak out.

I think they wanted justice for the ministers affected.

I don't think it's as honourable as that. It's about blaming Starmer and appearing to be the good guys.

There is a group of sanctioned torey MPs who have done good work exposing espionage concerns, without them we would probably have Chineese built nuclear reactors.

Maybe

But political tittle tattle is not classified information or a threat to the state.

But it's good to use against your political opponents

The CPS dropped the case not the government, it could have left it to the judge and jury..

Agreed

 

[transam]

Mountain out of a mole hill imo

There was some caper a good while back about some labour politician can’t remember his name but he is / was a complete wind bag when giving any interview

Any way he had some Chinese spy’s (?) paid working in his office

Also some caper about Chinese donating money to his campaign fund ? Or some other such caper

 

[transam]

Blimey a labour government actually had a Russian spy in there cabinet

 

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Blimey a labour government actually had a Russian spy in there cabinet

Wilson was regarded as a commu nist spy iirc

 

[blup]

Mountain out of a mole hill imo

Probably was.

There was some caper a good while back about some labour politician can’t remember his name but he is / was a complete wind bag when giving any interview

Any way he had some Chinese spy’s (?) paid working in his office

Also some caper about Chinese donating money to his campaign fund ? Or some other such caper

That’s the problem, if you dig beneath the surface a lot of politicians and their hangers on could be in trouble.

 

[Odds]

 

[Notch7]

Seems more than one news source agrees.

MI5 boss says China plot disrupted in past week - amid rise in state-sponsored threats

Sir Ken admits he's "frustrated when opportunities to prosecute national security threatening activity are not followed" - as a row escalates over the scrapping of a case against two Britons.

news.sky.com

who is to blame: Tories

when were the witness statements taken: during Tory government
who failed to act on it: Tory govt

 

[transam]

Wilson was regarded as a commu nist spy iirc

Dunno was he ?

 

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Dunno was he ?

Yea all that labour lot back in 60s and 70s were under survfillance

 

[motorbiking]

who is to blame: Tories

when were the witness statements taken: during Tory government
who failed to act on it: Tory govt

You’re just being silly.

 

[blup]

More info from the grauniad, difficult to see how what seems to be the sort of info professional lobbyists sell, is regarded as spying

‘You’re in spy territory’: how two UK nationals got tangled in a Chinese espionage row

The Met’s elite SO15 unit alleged a parliamentary researcher helped his friend create 34 reports for a shadowy front

www.theguardian.com

 

[transam]

Every body is spying on every one else

CCTV
Door ring cameras

All this nonsense about these two blokes spying for China

Like the UK is not spying on China

One of the most bugged offices is probably the Bloke who runs the UN office (Secretary General )