Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[denso13]

It's a debate isn't it?

I thought it was, but you don't want my opinion, because "that's not how things actually are".

 

[aveatry]

But strangely true.

Yes of course you could of mentioned loads of famous pensioners

 

[pete01]

Mick and Elton will manage, don't panic.

Well Bob and madge down my road wont

 

[denso13]

Well Bob and madge down my road wont

I don't believe you, sorry.

 

[Highway Man]

I thought it was, but you don't want my opinion, because "that's not how things actually are".

I wouldn't be engaging with you if I didn't want your opinion, I am telling you my opinions and you dismiss them by giving false facts.

 

[pete01]

I don't believe you, sorry.

You are either really rich or very stupid

 

[denso13]

I am telling you my opinions and you dismiss them by giving false facts.

I don't think we should be giving hand outs to those pensioners who just don't need it. Do you?

 

[Highway Man]

I don't think we should be giving hand outs to those pensioners who just don't need it. Do you?

My take on it is this. If a pensioner has paid into the system all of his working life and has worked to make his retirement comfortable and another pensioner hasn't been so careful with his money or been on a lower wage bracket, I think both are entitled under the current way it was paid out, which was done by age rather than equity. On the basis of funds paid into the system, both are entitled.

 

[denso13]

My take on it is this. If a pensioner has paid into the system all of his working life and has worked to make his retirement comfortable and another pensioner hasn't been so careful with his money or been on a lower wage bracket, I think both are entitled under the current way it was paid out, which was done by age rather than equity.

Ok.

 

[Highway Man]

Ok.

One may have a desperate need for the payout and rely on it, one may spend it on other things but both have reached the age of entitlement.

 

[denso13]

One may have a desperate need for the payout and rely on it, one may spend it on other things but both have reached the age of entitlement.

Then increase the pension by £200. WFP is a payment to help will utility bills in winter. Millionaires simply don't need it.

 

[MNW67]

There was a diagram posted earlier by MBK showing all the flows of immigrants. It showed that only about a third of asylum seekers come on small boats. I think most of the others enter the country legally on visas at some point. What I would like to know is, what happens to the asylum seekers who are not small boat people. Are they treated in exactly the same way e.g. housed in hotels and given the same amount of money to live on.

 

[Highway Man]

Then increase the pension. WFP is a payment to help will utility bills in winter. Millionaires simply don't need it.

They may not need it but they are entitled to it.

 

[denso13]

They may not need it but they are entitled to it.

I disagree, but there we go.

 

[aveatry]

I don't think we should be giving hand outs to those pensioners who just don't need it. Do you?

But the process to decide who needs it costs more than the dosh if it was given out to everyone- in your world.

All those pensioners who do not need it will --
spend it = VAT receipts
Horde it and have inheritance tax applied in the end
Give it to children/ grand children who will buy stuff and increase the economy.
Maybe turn the stat up so they are not cold ( remind me again the VAT on domestic fuel )
Every penny will end up back in the public purse - meanwhile stupid Starmer has lost votes