Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[Highway Man]

It's illegal to interfere and endanger another vessel at sea.
What part of that don't you get?

Did the OU tell you that? I wouldn't put much emphasis on that if I were you.

I'm not lashing out at you. I'm laughing at the naivety of your comments.

It wasn't in reply to you, it was for your lecturer, Knotch.

 

[pete01]

Yes, I'm the one responsible for posting the same old tired arguments time and time and time and, in the hope I'll get a different result.

I know

 

[Deleted member 323070]

It confirms they have no protection until they claim asylum and cannot claim asylum from the UK until they reach the UK.

turning around illegal immigrants in boats and preventing them from entering UK waters = legal.

Fore the umpteeth time it's illegal to interfere and endanger another vessel.

(1)Subject to subsection (5) below, a person commits an offence if he unlawfully and intentionally—
(a)destroys a ship or a fixed platform,
(b)damages a ship, its cargo or a fixed platform so as to endanger, or to be likely to endanger, the safe navigation of the ship, or as the case may be, the safety of the platform, or
(c)commits on board a ship or on a fixed platform an act of violence which is likely to endanger the safe navigation of the ship, or as the case may be, the safety of the platform.

(5)Subsections (1) and (2) above do not apply in relation to any act committed in relation to a warship

(6)A person guilty of an offence under this section is liable on conviction on indictment to imprisonment for life.

Aviation and Maritime Security Act 1990

An Act to give effect to the Protocol for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts of Violence at Airports Serving International Civil Aviation which supplements the Convention for the Suppression of Unlawful Acts against the Safety of Civil Aviation; to make further provision with respect to aviation...

www.legislation.gov.uk

if they are pushed back while in UK waters, they are committing an offence liable to life imprisonment.

But any return of a vessel to a state’s territorial waters would require that state’s consent. It’s not clear whether France has consented to the return of vessels to its waters, especially given France’s negative response to the current proposals.

https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/is-turning-back-migrants-at-sea-compatible-with-international-law/

They can't be pushed back while in French waters.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

I know

Don't you get sarcasm neither?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

As the usual culprits have reduced the discussion to nothing but abuse. I rest my case.
I refuse to be dragged down to their level.

 

[transam]

Jeez us

4 years till an election and starmers seems to have a squeaky b um over this reform party
Making his speech seemed like the start of an election campaign

He needs to get a grip ffs

Next he will be setting up some task force to counter this reform party

 

[noseall]

A pair of liars posting in a thread, slapping each other on the back. I wonder who they are trying to convince?

 

[Notch7]

don't care, rounding up people in your territory and forcibly sneaking them to someone else's is not lawful.

thats the Reform party policy
the same one you said was workable

here it is point 4:

funnily enough point 1, 2 and 4 are unworkable

 

[Notch7]

Next he will be setting up some task force

oh just like the Reform party, point 3

 

[pete01]

Don't you get sarcasm neither?

Shut up for the love of God shut up

 

[blup]

wheres the money?

Farage has got loads of magic money trees because he can make up any old BS, he isnt in power

Starmer is living with reality: ie the sh1t the tories left after salting the earth

Where was the money for furlough and nationalising the banks during austerity? Who is paying the interest on the debt?

 

[Notch7]

its not hard.

it is for you, you keep getting it wrong

youve spent pages and pages arguing that pushbacks are legal, but they arent on unstable overloaded boats
youve spent ages trying to claim that rules say France has to take rescued migrants, but it doesnt

you havent provided evidence for either

Poor Motorbiking, it really is getting ever so embarrassing for you

 

[blup]

That ground is inhabited by the Lib Dems, (and SNP) and the Greens currently.

Voting green or libbdem as a protest is like voting re form as a protest. Policies become increasingly irrelevant, so you get Nige knocking back pints in Clapton and Edd Davey falling off canoes in the Lake District.

 

[Notch7]

Where was the money for furlough and nationalising the banks during austerity? Who is paying the interest on the debt?

I think both were funded by Quantitative Easing..........that causes its own problems

if you are talking about MMT then thats a tricky question, but I would simply ask why dont politicians use it in their manifestos

 

[MNW67]

Where was the money for furlough and nationalising the banks during austerity? Who is paying the interest on the debt?

One off events are treated differently for some reason. A bit like major wars.