Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[Highway Man]

I suspect the refugees will be glad of your advice.
It's completely irrelevant to this debate.

Imagine if they listened to you. OMG they would turn themselves around

 

[Deleted member 323070]

please state why you think they are lies and where


1)Motorbiking keeps claiming pushbacks are legal without acknowledging that is only true for boats which are seaworthy and not overloaded with people and in danger of sinking

It's not legal then.
It's against the maritime laws of most countries to interfere with the passage of other vessels.

2)Motorbiking keeps claiming that Reform have a strategy that is workable -despite the fact that their strategy is towing boats back to France -which is not possible without agreement

It lulls the idiots to vote for Reform. Then they'll regret it when it all becomes clear, just like Brexit.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, I must be a RWR.

3)Motorbiking keeps falsely claiming that France "must allow" British vessels to drop migrants in France -but he cant provide any wording in any law that states that

They can, but they're not obligated to do so, IF they've been rescued in French waters.
In reality, they'll probably return to base with them.

 

[mitch66]

Dunno what all the fuss is about tbh

Have none of you heard ???

Starmer has set up a task force with a turbo charged mission to stop the boats

Just give it time and have some faith in this task force

He is also talking to countries were he can deport them to as soon as they arrive ??

Sorted

Incidentally in a town not far from here they found the remains of a farmers cow that had been slaughtered and dismembered near a public foot path
Yes exactly

Is Kier getting smashed by gangs?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

No danger involved it isn't in distress other than they cannot continue their journey, so tow back to France

Not allowed.

Then you are putting them in distress.

You've clearly lost the plot.
You intentionally disable another vessel, which you claim you haven't put in distress, even though they are now drifting at the mercy of the wind, tides, currents and sea conditions.
Then you suggest you'd tow them back to France, despite your claim that they're not in distress. You can't take another boat in tow without their permission.
Then when Denso tells you it's not allowed, you claim only then that he is putting them in distress.

A true and typical student of mbk.
He's teaching you well.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Not surprised with you and Notch sending him left right and center

Don't you mean port and starboard?
He's been going via fore and aft in the process. It's all part of the cycle of going round in circles.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Imagine if they listened to you. OMG they would turn themselves around

Mbk is making himself dizzy.
You were always dizzy anyway.

 

[fillyboy]

If they arrived post April 2022, they won't have been processed, but were alowed to remain.

I wonder who we could blame for that.

Doesn't alter the fact they turned out to be spies/terrorists.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Doesn't alter the fact they turned out to be spies/terrorists.

If they'd been processed they'd have been identified as spys, and deported.
But the wisdom of the then government decided to stop processing new arrivals.

And there's no suggestion of them being terrorists.
Filly fake facts again?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Is that it? Can I go now?

Until someone pokes me with a stick again.

 

[fillyboy]

If they'd been processed they'd have been identified as spys, and deported.

 

[motorbiking]

please state why you think they are lies and where


1)Motorbiking keeps claiming pushbacks are legal without acknowledging that is only true for boats which are seaworthy and not overloaded with people and in danger of sinking

2)Motorbiking keeps claiming that Reform have a strategy that is workable -despite the fact that their strategy is towing boats back to France -which is not possible without agreement

3)Motorbiking keeps falsely claiming that France "must allow" British vessels to drop migrants in France -but he cant provide any wording in any law that states that

1. I have stated the careful push back places them in no more risk.
2 I have said it needs tweaking
3 I have taken you through it word by word.

 

[motorbiking]

Motorbiking is saying a drifting boat is not in distress
Motorbiking is saying a drifting boat cant be left

it cant be both

if its not in distress, then it can be left

A drifting boat does not require immediate assistance. Different rules apply.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

During an asylum application the applicants and their stories are placed under intense scrutiny.
It's highly probable that their claim would not have stood scrutiny, they'd have been refused and deported.

I fail to see why you think it's funny that the UK stopped assessing asylum applications and allowed all and sundry to remain.
Is it a perverted sense of humour?

 

[motorbiking]

but you said:




So which is it?

It needs assistance but not urgent assistance. PanPan vs mayday.

 

[motorbiking]

If you've intentionally disabled the propulsion system, you have endangered the lives of the occupants.
Piracy comes to mind. What's next, ask them for their valuables as payment for towing them to safety?

Not my suggestion. I’m suggested they are turned around and I’ve explained how.