Thanks for all the replies, they were really...............helpful
surveyor or builder ? help please
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You're confusing SEs with civils aka wannabe SEsThe engineers do the same two weeks worth of lessons on partition wall/joist support and then go off to do 3 years on foundations/soil samples/chemical analysis/re-bar/concrete theory and other equally relevent subjects.
You sound insincere, in some way...
Two weeks? It was a whole term, trust me it still hurts. I think theres a bit of professional snobbery going on here. I have and will continue to call in structural engineers for complex load calculations, it is after all their field of expertise. Having said that there are many 'structural engineering' jobs that would fall within a building surveyors remit. I know my limitations and that's the important thing.
structural engineers - great at calc's - lousy at practical solutions.
In a domestic environment, apart from designing a reinforced foundation or some elaborate arched elevation or such like, there is nothing that a structural engineer can do that a building surveyor (experienced in structures) can not do.
We use engineers for some work which is perhaps more appropriate within the surveyors role (cracks and movement) and the reports are very sterile - lots of "lateral rotational transportional deflection" type statements, but little in the way of what any defects actually mean to the property or the person living in it.
We've had superbly engineered solutions which look absolutely awful insitu and so out of place in context of the building
I find architecture too arty and structural engineering too mathematical, and love being in the middle able to dip into all areas.
We use engineers for some work which is perhaps more appropriate within the surveyors role (cracks and movement) and the reports are very sterile - lots of "lateral rotational transportional deflection" type statements, but little in the way of what any defects actually mean to the property or the person living in it.
We've had superbly engineered solutions which look absolutely awful insitu and so out of place in context of the building
I find architecture too arty and structural engineering too mathematical, and love being in the middle able to dip into all areas.
"Errr, excuse me .... just how do I get this 8m 254 x 254 x 89 kg/m into the loft?"
"Well, err ..... nice day to day isn't it. Did you watch the match yesterday, how's the family, going on holiday this year?"
yeah me too, except i find architecture fascinating and rather intuitive.
"Errr, excuse me .... just how do I get this 8m 254 x 254 x 89 kg/m into the loft?"
"Well, err ..... nice day to day isn't it. Did you watch the match yesterday, how's the family, going on holiday this year?"
spot on ^w^
I'm a bit out-numbered here, aren't I?!
Joking aside, I would willingly agree with you that there are a lot of (too many?) SEs/civils who disappear into the numbers, without any thought of a) what the finished article will look like and b) how to build it. Although CDM has gone some way to addressing the latter.
In my personal defence, I started off right at the bottom, before dragging myself up by my bootraps and getting a degree to let me sit the exam to get chartered, so I like to think that having done all the stuff from the bottom up has made me a more practical engineer - and I seem to have loads of clients who use me for just that reason, so I must be doing something right...
Joking aside, I would willingly agree with you that there are a lot of (too many?) SEs/civils who disappear into the numbers, without any thought of a) what the finished article will look like and b) how to build it. Although CDM has gone some way to addressing the latter.
In my personal defence, I started off right at the bottom, before dragging myself up by my bootraps and getting a degree to let me sit the exam to get chartered, so I like to think that having done all the stuff from the bottom up has made me a more practical engineer - and I seem to have loads of clients who use me for just that reason, so I must be doing something right...
Admit it though, Woodster, anything other than WL/8 and you're ferked
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