Swearing at the Police.

[joe-90]

Apparently it's ok to swear at the Police because they are used to it.

That's according to some silly judge. I guess that means when he's swore at in future he can't say "Contempt of court".

Total break down of society. No respect for authority.

I guess it will be OK to swear at shop keepers, nurses, doctors, teachers etc? Just because they 'get used to it'.

 

[Djnikon]

So what's the stance on society breaking down when it's the coppers swearing at punters.
At a football match last month I heard a copper tell a supporter to "sit the **** down you ****ing idiot!"
I was there with a friend and his 9 year old son who heard the whole thing and he now thinks it's acceptable to use that language.
So I'm all for us not swearing at the bizz Joe but the coin has two sides.

 

[gasbanni]

I agree just because slang words are in common usage it does'nt make it acceptable or right to use them on any and all occasions or does it ?

Like you say if those words were used in that idiot judges court how would he react?

"Well your f****g honour it was like this......."

I suspect he would not be happy.........

 

[Blasphemous]

Apparently it's ok to swear at the Police because they are used to it.

That's according to some silly judge. I guess that means when he's swore at in future he can't say "Contempt of court".

Total break down of society. No respect for authority.

I guess it will be OK to swear at shop keepers, nurses, doctors, teachers etc? Just because they 'get used to it'.

And Martian wants the police involved over a silly tweeted insult? Laughable.

Just so I can understand Joe, you've made a comparison of your first point (swearing at authoritative figures), and the point Martian made re police should be involved where a racial slur is made toward someone; Are you suggesting that there's no 'break down of society' if someone uses a racial slur against someone but there is if they swear at someone 'in authority'? Further, are you suggesting there is a difference between racially abusive language and abusive language that does not contain racially offensive words? Or is it simply that you see a difference between an verbally abusive attack that takes place face-to-face and one that takes place online?

 

[joe-90]

The point I was leading to is that if the police can be expected to suffer being called a 'f'ing c***' all day long because they are 'used to it' then what if a black police officer was called a 'f'ing ni***r' day in day out - would that be 'tolerable' because he gets it day in day out? My stance - zero tolerance on both counts.

 

[Blasphemous]

The point I was leading to is that if the police can be expected to suffer being called a 'f'ing c***' all day long because they are 'used to it' then what if a black police officer was called a 'f'ing ni***r' day in day out - would that be 'tolerable' because he gets it day in day out? My stance - zero tolerance on both counts.

Ah I see. Agreed. But what about the racial abuse that celeb Chef got? Surely we want zero tolerance there too?

 

[joe-90]

The point I was leading to is that if the police can be expected to suffer being called a 'f'ing c***' all day long because they are 'used to it' then what if a black police officer was called a 'f'ing ni***r' day in day out - would that be 'tolerable' because he gets it day in day out? My stance - zero tolerance on both counts.

Ah I see. Agreed. But what about the racial abuse that celeb Chef got? Surely we want zero tolerance there too?

Yes we do - but he was Texan living in Texas - simply get Twitter block his IP address. Not a job for the Police.

 

[Blasphemous]

Yes we do - but he was Texan living in Texas - simply get Twitter block his IP address. Not a job for the Police.

I think that's the BIG issue with the www, it's literally www! How can anyone police that? I believe Twitter did close down the account so job done there. As for the abuse, I suppose we all know the world's full of idiots and if you metaphorically open your door, an idiot is gonna wonder in every now and again. That's the biggest problem with Twitter, anyone and everyone can read your feeds and send you comments. Facebook is slightly more closed down. In there, your 'door' is only open when you comment on someone's page. At that point someone could make an abusive comment toward you but they'd still need to be part of the network of 'friends' of the other person.

Anyway, back to the original point.

 

[Djnikon]

Fife police, when operating in pairs, like to try the good cop bad cop routine. Always one that will be ok and the other a complete bawbag!

 

[Biker1959]

Apparently it's ok to swear at the Police because they are used to it.

That's according to some silly judge. I guess that means when he's swore at in future he can't say "Contempt of court".

Total break down of society. No respect for authority.

I guess it will be OK to swear at shop keepers, nurses, doctors, teachers etc? Just because they 'get used to it'.

Believe it or not, the Judge is called Mr Bean....

 

[ellal]

What I'd like to know is why it's ok to post 'f'ing c***' or 'f'ing ni***r' but not c***s when making a point....

So in order to conform, I shall rephrase my earlier post which mysteriously disappeared...

I think it's fine to call cops f'ing c**** since most of them are...

 

[Lower]

So what's the stance on society breaking down when it's the coppers swearing at punters.
At a football match last month I heard a copper tell a supporter to "sit the **** down you **** idiot!"
I was there with a friend and his 9 year old son who heard the whole thing and he now thinks it's acceptable to use that language.
So I'm all for us not swearing at the bizz Joe but the coin has two sides.

Its not acceptable for police to use that language either.

 

[Susiejb]

The fact is that these days 'swearing' has become so commonplace that I wonder if today's youth even recognise it as ''swearing' when they are unable to string a sentence together without including the 'f 'word at least three times.
You only have to look at the posts on here to see how commonplace it is, the thinly veiled swearing renders the 'profanity checker' absolutely useless .
As it is so commonplace I would assume therefore that almost everyone on here thinks its is just fine, this is after all an open site and can be visited by absolutely anyone.....so if your mum, dad. granny, grandad, son or daughter.... logs in I would assume that everyone is happy for their posts to be read.

Personally I don't think our society is enriched by over use of bad language, the English language has so many wonderful words that are more than able to describe any situation, swear words, in the appropriate situation can also be extremely effective and necessary, however they are now so overused that they have almost lost their effectiveness.

I have two sons....they have never sworn here in our home....it is down to respect....they know it would be totally unacceptable.....and yet I know of many parents who constantly use bad language themselves.

It is right to say that we should have respect for authority of course it is, but maybe the use of bad language is now so commonplace that it fails to reflect the lack of respect that it used to.

 

[joe-90]

Yes, but by accepting that, we are on a slippery slope to anarchy. Who do we swear at next? GP? Teacher? Bank clerk?

 

[ellal]

Don't worry....

The Metropolitan Police Commissioner Bernard Hogan-Howe says that he is “deeply disappointed” by a court ruling which says that swearing at the police is not a crime and suggested his force would arrest people who direct foul language at officers......

Mr Hogan-Howe, Britain’s most senior police officer, suggested that officers could find ways around the last week's ruling, made by a Court of Appeal judge.

He said there are "still opportunities" to arrests suspects who swear at officers.

Plod speak for "we'll fit you up anyway"...

Nothing new there then...