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Unemployment,,ptsd,long term depression,anxiety,,god knows how much in NHS operarations,councelling,probably the tip of the iceberg!!!..probably compensation if they in the wrong gender prison etc etc etc
So now there are two people from whom we await a reasoned response.
 
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Jolly good DP.

So now we have two people on whom we are waiting for a reasoned response regarding this:
The so-called illnesses that go with this nonsense should be laughed out of any doctor's surgery, and only exist because welfare payments can be claimed for them.

What is this so-called illness - something you don't know so can't define it, also what are these welfare benefits they can claim.

I await your reasoned response.
and one who now needs to provide a reasoned response explaining what it has to do with Brexit.

My fault, I suppose, as I said "feel free to keep posting more proof that you don't know what you're doing", and that is just what you have done.
 
Yes Labour seems obsessed with appearing on Russia Today

Richard Burgon
October 7, 2017

John McDonnell MP
September 30, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
September 30, 2017

Chris Williamson MP
September 18, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
September 13, 2017

Dave Ward (CWU)
September 9, 2017

Emma Dent Coad MP
August 8, 2017

Gina Miller
July 22, 2017

Peter Dowd MP
July 19, 2017

Lauren Pidcock MP
July 5, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
June 24, 2017

Khalid Mahmood
June 21, 2017

Chi Onwurah MP
June 19, 2017

Peter Dowd MP
May 31, 2017

Jim Fitzpatrick MP
April 29, 2017

Chi Onwurah MP
March 15, 2017

Nick Srnicek (billed as McDonnell advisor)
March 15, 2017

Chris Williamson MP
March 11, 2017

Clive Lewis MP
March 11, 2017

Barry Gardiner MP
March 11, 2017

Ken Livingstone
February 26, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
January 23, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
January 21, 2017

Barry Gardiner MP
January 14, 2017

Ken Livingstone
January 7, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
December 21, 2016

Ken Loach
November 5, 2016

Barry Gardiner MP
November 2, 2016

Chi Onwurah MP
October 12. 2016

Andrew Murray
October 8, 2017

Peter Dowd MP
October 3, 2016

Claudia Webb (NEC)
September 21, 2016

Nic Dakin MP
September 19, 2016

Steve McCabe MP
September 4, 2016

Ken Loach
July 17, 2016

Jackie Walker
May 21, 2016

Matt Wrack (Fire Brigades Union)
May 18. 2016

Ken Livingstone
May 9, 2016

James Schneider
March 30, 2016

Richard Burgon MP
March 23, 2016

Richard Burgon MP
February 8, 2016

John McDonnell MP
January 23, 2016

Ian Lavery MP
October 31, 2015

Seumas Milne
October 5, 2015

Jeremy Corbyn MP
August 29, 2015

They think Russia is still commie.
 
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Yes Labour seems obsessed with appearing on Russia Today
You've listed people who are not Labour MPs.

Also, is there something wrong with them appearing on it?

Would you have some kind of criticism against people who do? MPs who do, if you'd criticise them differently to non-MPs?

What would that criticism be?

Would you criticise a political party because its members, or MPs, appeared on it?

What do you mean by "obsessed"? Is that also a criticism?


BTW - none of the above are rhetorical questions - I would very much like to understand what your attitude is regarding people appearing on that station.
 
Yes Labour seems obsessed with appearing on Russia Today

Richard Burgon
October 7, 2017

John McDonnell MP
September 30, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
September 30, 2017

Chris Williamson MP
September 18, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
September 13, 2017

Dave Ward (CWU)
September 9, 2017

Emma Dent Coad MP
August 8, 2017

Gina Miller
July 22, 2017

Peter Dowd MP
July 19, 2017

Lauren Pidcock MP
July 5, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
June 24, 2017

Khalid Mahmood
June 21, 2017

Chi Onwurah MP
June 19, 2017

Peter Dowd MP
May 31, 2017

Jim Fitzpatrick MP
April 29, 2017

Chi Onwurah MP
March 15, 2017

Nick Srnicek (billed as McDonnell advisor)
March 15, 2017

Chris Williamson MP
March 11, 2017

Clive Lewis MP
March 11, 2017

Barry Gardiner MP
March 11, 2017

Ken Livingstone
February 26, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
January 23, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
January 21, 2017

Barry Gardiner MP
January 14, 2017

Ken Livingstone
January 7, 2017

Richard Burgon MP
December 21, 2016

Ken Loach
November 5, 2016

Barry Gardiner MP
November 2, 2016

Chi Onwurah MP
October 12. 2016

Andrew Murray
October 8, 2017

Peter Dowd MP
October 3, 2016

Claudia Webb (NEC)
September 21, 2016

Nic Dakin MP
September 19, 2016

Steve McCabe MP
September 4, 2016

Ken Loach
July 17, 2016

Jackie Walker
May 21, 2016

Matt Wrack (Fire Brigades Union)
May 18. 2016

Ken Livingstone
May 9, 2016

James Schneider
March 30, 2016

Richard Burgon MP
March 23, 2016

Richard Burgon MP
February 8, 2016

John McDonnell MP
January 23, 2016

Ian Lavery MP
October 31, 2015

Seumas Milne
October 5, 2015

Jeremy Corbyn MP
August 29, 2015

Notch you pulled this list from order-order - the Guido Fawkes website and it's not corroborated. It might be correct but until it is - order-order isn't a reliable source.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/18/mps-kremlin-propaganda-channel-rt

It has both labour and Tory members - and David Davies.
 
They think Russia is still commie.

So you are criticising these MPs for talking on RT because they are communist supporters.

But RT is an instrument of the Russian Government which you profess to like.

RWR are one thing - they are reliably wrong and illogical.

Well, seeing as the West is currently attacking Russia don't you think millions and millions of people should be exposed to an alternative opinion, don't you think perhaps that is RT's motivation ?

I love Russia mate

I'll be visting there because I like Russia and want to see such a beautiful country.
 
You've listed people who are not Labour MPs
Indeed, hence why I didnt state Labour MPs.
Non MPs may still be influential in Labour strategy.
Andrew Murray for example, Corbyns advisor, so a key figure. He used to be a communist party member and apologist for Stalin.


Also, is there something wrong with them appearing on it?
I would say it shows poor judgement
Monika Richter, the report’s author, said RT’s purpose was “to fundamentally pollute the information space”.

“People who don’t understand this issue very well might think it’s harmless to appear on a satirical show, but it’s a failure of judgment and a lack of imagination in understanding how insidious the whole machine is,” she said.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/nov/18/mps-kremlin-propaganda-channel-rt

In the same way I think it poor judgement for Corbyn to appear on PressTV. Which earlier this year filmed a Labour party meeting, dedpite being banned in this country.
Poor judgement or perhaps indicative of where a persons sympathies lie. Iran and Corbyn both have a common enemy.........

Obsessed -word only used tongue in cheek as it was the adjective used by Noseall
 
Indeed, hence why I didnt state Labour MPs.
OK.

But you did list at least one person who isn't even a member of the Labour Party, so your use of the word "Labour" wasn't a very good one.

But we will soon see just why...


I would say it shows poor judgement
OK.

So why did you only list "Labour" people as a target of your criticism?

Shouldn't you be even more concerned about Tory MPs, including Cabinet Ministers, appearing on the station, as they are the party in power and "poor judgement" is a terrible failing for a Minister?

But not a word from you about that, was there.

Nor about the fact that more Tory MPs have appeared on it than Labour ones.

Nor that one of the people who has appeared on it (in order to make himself richer) was the father of the man who said that it was “a scandal” that dozens of Labour frontbenchers had appeared on the controversial Kremlin-backed TV station, who he attacked for “continuing to validate and legitimate” the “propaganda” put out by Moscow.

What might your reason be, I wonder, for your totally one-sided criticism, ignoring the worse behaviour of others? Incompetence or anti-Labour bias?
 
Russia is a dangerous dictatorship, out to undermine Western democracy. I'm sure all our UK politicians know this.
Political scum of the Earth I'd say. (y)
I'd suggest that your opinion may be clouded by western propaganda.
I remember when I were a lad that communism was presented as the devil's work and any sensible christian would denounce it.

I'm not supporting Russia, it's present political class or communism. But I do retain an open mind, to guard it against the possibility of it being clouded by propaganda.

By the way, I worry about your poor choice of words: "Russia...Political scum of the Earth I'd say."
I assume you were talking about the present political leaders, rather than Russians, in general.
 
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