The answer to the NHS is not more money.
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I'm all in favour of reducing inefficiency and waste. I wanted to say that to my MP at his Saturday evening surgery, but he doesn't work weekends.
For example
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22241-hail-jeremy-hunt-the-new-minister-for-magic/
For anyone unfamiliar with the scientific basis, it is explained in simple terms here
http://www.howdoeshomeopathywork.com/
For example
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn22241-hail-jeremy-hunt-the-new-minister-for-magic/
For anyone unfamiliar with the scientific basis, it is explained in simple terms here
http://www.howdoeshomeopathywork.com/
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How does that work with children, women who bring up children for years, low paid workers, mentally and disabled people, full-time carers who get paid bugger all? Are all these people to expect to suffer because they can't afford medical help? The NHS was built as a health system for everyone. As soon as we start charging those on choices that are not always their own, we end up with a very unfair system which quite frankly, is wrong. It's supposed to be a civilised country the UK.
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I must be a prophet. .......when I got home there's a letter from the hospital regarding a fall my mum had in the Local A&E department that resulted in her breaking her hip, I was there at the time as I'd taken her about something else.
She's on the mend now after six weeks.
They were panicking at the time ........This letter is a cover up and they're lying about what happened.
I dont mean they're mistaken they're lying. I wouldn't have minded if they had been truthfull. But now they've got my back up and they've got a fight on their hands.
Back covering lying bstrds
She's on the mend now after six weeks.
They were panicking at the time ........This letter is a cover up and they're lying about what happened.
I dont mean they're mistaken they're lying. I wouldn't have minded if they had been truthfull. But now they've got my back up and they've got a fight on their hands.
Back covering lying bstrds
You are referring to chav scum, Tony Blair's creation. There is no getting around the fact old people are soaking up vital NHS services with all their ailments. Extremely wealthy old people that have made money from the system their whole loves should have to pay, it's the only way to ease the crisis.
The pound was also worth more in the old days. Nothing like today. They will have to contribute some of their savings to support their ailments otherwise the NHS is doomed. There won't be one.
Well I'm pretty sick of some older people saying they had it much harder in the old days. The truth is there isn't one single person alive in this country that remembers the first world war, and a tiny minority of those that remember the second world war. None of the old people alive today have seen war or famine or poverty, or had a hard life, and got to retire very early on fantastic pensions compared to today. Retirement age is going up and up, pensions are worth less and less. If you think the young are going to be able to work themselves to death to support people in old age you are living in cloud cookoo, especially since Labour so successfully nurtured and encouraged the benefits culture, leading to thousands more feral, unemployable people to be born onto this island, all of them tax burdens, as previously mentioned by another poster.
If an elderly couple have saved over a million pounds, mortgage paid, children have long since left home.. and one needs a cataract sorted out costing the NHS quite a few thousands, what would be so demonstrably unfair about that person paying for his treatment? Given that he can EASILY afford to pay a few grand for it ??
Yes it is unfair considering that is not how the system ever intended it, but unfortunately there is no getting around the fact the NHS cannot afford to treat everyone, and the youth cannot be targetted anymore.. as they have already been targetted in every which way. Look at the ridiculous cost of renting a home (not a concern of the older generation). Look at the cost of buying a home (not a concern of the older generation). Look at the ****ty pension deals on offer and anti-social hours demanded by employers, OFTEN UNPAID. The older crowd have no clue what it's like by comparison. Sorry but it's time to get real.
Now the immigrants have taken a bashing, lets turn on the older generation.
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Excuse me, but which planet are you living on?
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I should imagine that elderly couples who have saved over a million are not that common and I know that if I'd saved that amount in my old age (as if) then I'd go private and save myself a long waiting list.
What about all the other old folk who haven't saved that amount, ie, most of them? Whereas I agree, it is much much harder for younger folk now, I don't see why we should penalise old folk either. People already are forced to pay towards their care in old age, having to sell homes etc and you also want them to pay for any operations or medical help too?! Madness.
I also find that the difference in attitude with older folk I know is interesting - they are unlikely to squander money, buy flashy cars and TV's that they can't afford, they don't seem to spend beyond their means, they have an attitude to save. So you want them to be forced into paying for their health care (AGAIN) instead of enjoy a retirement just because they worked hard and were sensible?
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Some old people have a lot, some have very little. It makes no sense to blame or pity people solely due to their age.
The Care Cap is, really, intended to help the sons and daughters of prosperous elderly people, so they receive a fat inheritance they have not earned or worked for. So is the huge rise in Inheritance Tax allowances.
If you happened to be a young couple starting out in life 70 years ago, and bought a modest house in, say, Walthamstow, you might well be sitting on a million or two by now, just by floating up on the rising tide of prosperity caused by British society.
In other parts of Britain, you might be lumbered with a house that won't even fetch a pound, just by sinking down in the economic downturn resulting from, say, the collapse of industry and regional poverty. Or you might be a tenant, owning no home at all.
In neither case have you earned your good or bad fortune.
It's a funny thing that the Conservative government has devised a scheme that benefits the lucky rich, but not the unlucky poor.
Coincidence?
The Care Cap is, really, intended to help the sons and daughters of prosperous elderly people, so they receive a fat inheritance they have not earned or worked for. So is the huge rise in Inheritance Tax allowances.
If you happened to be a young couple starting out in life 70 years ago, and bought a modest house in, say, Walthamstow, you might well be sitting on a million or two by now, just by floating up on the rising tide of prosperity caused by British society.
In other parts of Britain, you might be lumbered with a house that won't even fetch a pound, just by sinking down in the economic downturn resulting from, say, the collapse of industry and regional poverty. Or you might be a tenant, owning no home at all.
In neither case have you earned your good or bad fortune.
It's a funny thing that the Conservative government has devised a scheme that benefits the lucky rich, but not the unlucky poor.
Coincidence?
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