The British Empire Good or Bad........

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Thanks Notch7, I quite enjoyed that. He didn't do a good job about explaining some of his slides, but there were some salient points in his talk.
One earlier salient point was that the EU parliament has swung violently to the left since Brexit because UK MEPs made up the majority of the far right.
Another of his salient points was how UK education is designed around the context of teaching the greatness of the empire while ignoring other issues.
 
I feel awful doing this, but I agree with DP!:D

Me too but exploitation is a fact as it still is in some countries all over the world. Eg an African oil rich country mentioned in the news recently - the money is not reaching the people. A S American country has been similar and may still be.

We of course create our own super rich that unlike the rest of us can own enormous yachts, exceeding expensive car and houses and etc. The empire helped with that here too so they were not the only ones that were "exploited". Some are still living on the wealth that created.
 
India are giving us a thrashing in the second test - so good and bad - we hammered them in the first test.:)
 
British empire all good

apart from a few mis haps

:sneaky:
 
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British empire all good

apart from a few mis haps

:sneaky:
A few mis haps (sic). That's worse than fillyboy's a few checkpoints. :ROFLMAO:
The total number of people that died under Germany's attempt to exterminate the Jews pales into insignificance when compared to the number of people who died under the rule of the British Empire, and that's just the top five worst atrocities:
5 of the worst atrocities carried out by the British Empire
A YouGov poll found 43 per cent of Brits thought the British Empire was a good thing, while 44 per cent were proud of Britain's history of colonialism

1. Boer concentration camps
During the Second Boer War (1899-1902), the British rounded up around a sixth of the Boer population - mainly women and children - and detained them in camps, which were overcrowded and prone to outbreaks of disease, with scant food rations.
Of the 107,000 people interned in the camps, 27,927 Boers died, along with an unknown number of black Africans.

2.
Amritsar massacre
When peaceful protesters defied a government order and demonstrated against British colonial rule in Amritsar, India, on 13 April 1919, they were blocked inside the walled Jallianwala Gardens and fired upon by Gurkha soldiers.
The soldiers, under the orders of Brigadier Reginald Dyer, kept firing until they ran out of ammunition, killing between 379 and 1,000 protesters and injuring another 1,100 within 10 minutes.
Brigadier Dyer was later lauded a hero by the British public, who raised £26,000 for him as a thank you.

3. Partitioning of India
In 1947, Cyril Radcliffe was tasked with drawing the border between India and the newly created state of Pakistan over the course of a single lunch.
After Cyril Radcliffe split the subcontinent along religious lines, uprooting over 10 million people, Hindus in Pakistan and Muslims in India were forced to escape their homes as the situation quickly descended into violence.
Some estimates suggest up to one million people lost their lives in sectarian killings.

4. Mau Mau Uprising
Thousands of elderly Kenyans, who claim British colonial forces mistreated, raped and tortured them during the Mau Mau Uprising (1951-1960), have launched a £200m damages claim against the UK Government.
Members of the Kikuyu tribe were detained in camps, since described as "Britain's gulags" or concentration camps, where they allege they were systematically tortured and suffered serious sexual assault.
Estimates of the deaths vary widely: historian David Anderson estimates there were 20,000, whereas Caroline Elkins believes up to 100,000 could have died.

5. Famines in India
Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while it was under the control of the British Empire, as millions of tons of wheat were exported to Britain as famine raged in India.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html
 
Blimey the British empire

I recall in the 70s when the Turks invaded Cyprus and partitioned the island

all the Greek Cypriots fled from the north in fear of there lives

all there houses and property were abandoned and confiscated

scroll on 30 odd years and ex pats buy up thousands of these same houses

how many of em occupy the moral high ground like himmagin ? Or hate the concept of the British empire but basically took advantage to buy some one else’s property on the cheap or decided to get there snouts in the trough
 
Blimey the British empire

I recall in the 70s when the Turks invaded Cyprus and partitioned the island

all the Greek Cypriots fled from the north in fear of there lives

all there houses and property were abandoned and confiscated

scroll on 30 odd years and ex pats buy up thousands of these same houses

how many of em occupy the moral high ground like himmagin ? Or hate the concept of the British empire but basically took advantage to buy some one else’s property on the cheap or decided to get there snouts in the trough
This is a thread about the British Empire. You trying to divert it away to other county's history suggests how really ashamed you are when the truth comes out.
 
A few mis haps (sic). That's worse than fillyboy's a few checkpoints. :ROFLMAO:
The total number of people that died under Germany's attempt to exterminate the Jews pales into insignificance when compared to the number of people who died under the rule of the British Empire, and that's just the top five worst atrocities:
5 of the worst atrocities carried out by the British Empire
A YouGov poll found 43 per cent of Brits thought the British Empire was a good thing, while 44 per cent were proud of Britain's history of colonialism

1. Boer concentration camps
During the Second Boer War (1899-1902), the British rounded up around a sixth of the Boer population - mainly women and children - and detained them in camps, which were overcrowded and prone to outbreaks of disease, with scant food rations.
Of the 107,000 people interned in the camps, 27,927 Boers died, along with an unknown number of black Africans.

2.
Amritsar massacre
When peaceful protesters defied a government order and demonstrated against British colonial rule in Amritsar, India, on 13 April 1919, they were blocked inside the walled Jallianwala Gardens and fired upon by Gurkha soldiers.
The soldiers, under the orders of Brigadier Reginald Dyer, kept firing until they ran out of ammunition, killing between 379 and 1,000 protesters and injuring another 1,100 within 10 minutes.
Brigadier Dyer was later lauded a hero by the British public, who raised £26,000 for him as a thank you.

3. Partitioning of India
In 1947, Cyril Radcliffe was tasked with drawing the border between India and the newly created state of Pakistan over the course of a single lunch.
After Cyril Radcliffe split the subcontinent along religious lines, uprooting over 10 million people, Hindus in Pakistan and Muslims in India were forced to escape their homes as the situation quickly descended into violence.
Some estimates suggest up to one million people lost their lives in sectarian killings.

4. Mau Mau Uprising
Thousands of elderly Kenyans, who claim British colonial forces mistreated, raped and tortured them during the Mau Mau Uprising (1951-1960), have launched a £200m damages claim against the UK Government.
Members of the Kikuyu tribe were detained in camps, since described as "Britain's gulags" or concentration camps, where they allege they were systematically tortured and suffered serious sexual assault.
Estimates of the deaths vary widely: historian David Anderson estimates there were 20,000, whereas Caroline Elkins believes up to 100,000 could have died.

5. Famines in India
Between 12 and 29 million Indians died of starvation while it was under the control of the British Empire, as millions of tons of wheat were exported to Britain as famine raged in India.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-war-concentration-camp-mau-mau-a6821756.html


Never read it

but 75000 Jews deported by the french government

what happened to there property

1980s some mad mullah in Iran had 5000 executed at the stroke of a pen
 
This is a thread about the British Empire. You trying to divert it away to other county's history suggests how really ashamed you are when the truth comes out.

transam has no shame
tis not me who should be ashamed
Tis u

living in a country who deported 75000 Jewish woman and children to the gas chambers

what happened to there property
Do u know

do U care

do u really want to know

answer to all the above is no u don’t
 
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