The Palestinians are a semitic people, so if that is important to you, attacking and persecuting them, stealing their land, and slaughtering them, are anti-semitic acts, of which Israel is guilty,
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The Palestinians are a semitic people, so if that is important to you, attacking and persecuting them, stealing their land, and slaughtering them, are anti-semitic acts, of which Israel is guilty,
Some people do it just to provoke, and i think that is the main issue.
Of course they do.
I try and avoid the term 'anti semitism' for that reason preferring the term Jew Hater which is more precise, particularly in your case.
Anti semitism is a term recognised globally as a term for Jew hatred, I'm not sure why because, as you suggest, most arabs are 'semitic' based on their use of modern arabic as a language, and over 300 million arabs are considered 'semitic' on that basis.
I genuinely don't see what that's got to do with the definition of refugee status.
Wrong.
I criticise racism, apartheid and genocide, and the states and people who commit it.
It appears that in your mind, racism, apartheid and genocide are synonymous with Judaism.
That is a sad reflection of your world view.
What is your definition of 'Jew hate talk'
The Jews claim that Palestine belongs to them because their ancestors were expelled from the land 2000 years ago.
They claim the right to live in Palestine through ancestral inheritance.
No much different from Palestinians passing the right to return to their children , even though they weren't born in Palestine.
Why do you think Jews came to Palestine in the first place.
Doesn't matter what his view is, there's an official version.
A definition of antisemitism
The problem of antisemitism continues to be a serious one. One issue is the absence of an agreed international definition of antisemitism.
OK I can see where you're coming from, but the fact is both parties have a claim to the land, the solution at the time was to divvy it up between them, the arabs declined, went to war against Israel and lost, left it a few years, went to war again and lost, left it a few more years and went to war again and lost, had a few intifadas in the meantime and then went to war again and lost.
Now they want the same agreement they were offered 75 years ago, but refuse to acknowledge the right of Israel to even exist.
I don't know what the solution is, maybe best to just have another war or two.
It seems like it was the surrounding Arab states that caused the problem, rather than the Palestinians themselves. It looks like all those states fancied taking a bit of land for themselves.
That is just one definition.Doesn't matter what his view is, there's an official version.
A definition of antisemitism
The problem of antisemitism continues to be a serious one. One issue is the absence of an agreed international definition of antisemitism.www.gov.uk
It isn't official or a legal definition.
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The IHRA definition of antisemitism is the "non-legally binding working definition of antisemitism" that was adopted by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) in 2016. It is also known as the IHRA working definition of antisemitism (IHRA-WDA).
Fat Eric Pickles and Camoron tried to get that definition put on the statute books, but it was even too draconian for the Tories.
I disagree, some of the surrounding Arab States were happy (imo) to let some land go to free themselves of a burden (Palestinian people).
When Israel declared statehood in 1948 the Arab inhabitants had been offered the same deal under UN resolution 181, split the land in 2, mutual cooperation, live in peace, blah blah blah, the Arabs declined the offer, they were only prepared to accept 1 state, without any Jews in it.
24 Hours after Israel declared Statehood they were invaded by 5 Arab countries, after 12 months the Israelis won the war. In that 12 months the Nakba occurred where 700-800,000 left Israel. Some reports will say they were all expelled which is nonsense, some were, maybe up to 200,000 but the majority left or fled on the instructions of the surrounding Arab countries to flee for their own safety, so they could return after the war when the Arabs succeeded in crushing Israel.
For the next 18 years Israel flourished in the land it been allocated, the Palestinians were set up in refugee camps in Jordan, and also settled in what we know as the West Bank and Gaza, the West Bank was under Jordanian control and Gaza was under Egyptian control, depite the areas being the suggested designated areas for Palestinians under UN res 181 neither Jordan or Egypt suggested or sanctioned these places as a Palestinian homeland, instead, they kicked it all off again in 1967, Israel again defeated the invaders but this time held on to both the West Bank and Gaza. The Arabs invaded again in 1973, blah blah blah, several infitadas, thousands of rocket attacks funded by Iran and the eventual invasion of Israel (again) on October 7th.
If you can find a solution to that lot you're a better man than I am.
Remember one thing, the PA are still currently not prepared to accept the existence of Israel and Hamas sure as hell aren't, the PA are happy to pay Palestinian citizens to kill Israelis, and Hamas will not release the hostages, and the 'West' have just sanctioned that this week with their 'meaningless' recognition of a Palestinian state.
You've lost me a little bit there. Are you saying that there is no official definition of anti semitism because Eric Pickles is fat?
“Levels of anti-Semitism in Great Britain are among the lowest in the world. British Jews constitute a religious and ethnic group that is seen overwhelmingly positively by the absolute majority of the British population,” writes the report’s author, Dr. Daniel Staetsky, senior research fellow at the London-based Institute for Jewish Policy Research (JPR) which published the research.
Moreover, 80% of those surveyed agreed with the statement: “A British Jew is just as British as any other British person,” while around 60% backed the view that “British Jews make a positive contribution to British society.”
Arguing that “the data on anti-Israel attitudes is less good,” Boyd expressed particular concern that close to a quarter of Britons believe, to some extent at least, that Israel is deliberately trying to wipe out the Palestinian population, and about one in five believe – again to some extent at least – that Israel is an apartheid state.
Moreover, 80% of those surveyed agreed with the statement: “A British Jew is just as British as any other British person,” while around 60% backed the view that “British Jews make a positive contribution to British society.”
Arguing that “the data on anti-Israel attitudes is less good,” Boyd expressed particular concern that close to a quarter of Britons believe, to some extent at least, that Israel is deliberately trying to wipe out the Palestinian population, and about one in five believe – again to some extent at least – that Israel is an apartheid state.
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