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There you go, deriding the UK again, why not **** off to a place you'd fit in better, I believe North Korea may be seeking a new head ar5ehole soon, you'd slot straight in.
er the UK is not the govt.
Are you really that thick!Doesn't matter where it originates from
O. K.
Of course, which is why they're entitled to every penny of cocompensation they can get.
Yup, that's why we maintain an emergency supply of PPE. For budgetary reasons the government decided that it didn't need to include visors as they were expensive.
On the other hand you can never stockpile enough of everything for every contingency. So having domestic production of vital materials is useful for when it runs out. Ensuring those domestic suppliers can ramp up when needed is also nice. But that itself is tricky as it works against free trade.
TL;DR it's all pretty tricky.
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The answer is surely to have better leadership,may I nominate
..Brexit bunch again.
My you are a sensitive snowflake aren't you hate. Getting all uppity because I dared to criticise your precious brexers. They are only here for the short term boyo and I'll stick around and criticise them whenever it suits me.
That would be better. South Korea's, or Portugal's or NZ's would probably have also been an improvement.
I hadn't realized that South Korea never went into lockdown.
Speaking of South Korea, I saw their monitoring at the airport on the news the other day. Particularly the temperature tracking, to identify anyone who may have the virus. Very impressive .
Until I heard Dr Chris (Smith; Cambridge uni virologist) saying it is currently thought that as many as 50% of the infected show no symptoms at all.
Yet another thing that reinforces my belief that we're in this for a good while.....
I like Dr Chris Smith -he has a good of way of explaining stuff
who ever thought virologists would be minor celebs in 2020!
I've been listening to his podcasts for years.
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Law suit is a publicity stunt. It wont go very far.
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I blame Toyota, they started the just in time idea. However when I did confined spaces course we were told the breathing apparatus issued was only designed to get us out, it was not designed to rescue people with, and we should not try to use it for that job, however where I worked, the BA equipment was kept in the engineering department so should a fault cause release of chlorine gas, it could be used to ensure everyone had got out of the building and also a second gas monitor could be deployed to show if really chlorine gas, or yet again the sensors were faulty.
So the engineering department was going directly against all the training given and using the BA to go into a dangerous situation. Lucky not me, as I have a beard, and the BA equipment would not seal on a beard.
The question is if you do some thing you have been trained not to do, who is at fault? Even if you are trained not to rescue your mate, you know if you could grab him and rescue him you would, i.e. actions above and beyond the call of duty, so the medical team know they should simply stand there and say sorry have to wait for a BA set, but you also know they will not, they will take risks, every job has some thing that we all do and we know we shouldn't, we all know the procedure, you work out a method to do the job, and you write out a method statement, then you do a risk assessment, and we all know often although we should write these out we don't, and when an accident happens the first thing the HSE ask for is the method statement and risk assessment, and if you don't have them, the finger of blame is pointed at you, and also if you don't follow the method written down in the method statement again the finger of blame is pointed at you.
I know this is not how it should be, but it is how it is.
I am so glad my mother is not alive now with all this going on, it was hard enough as it was, the health care professionals would follow the rules, my mother was not sectioned so if she said no, then they has to do as she said, she did have alzheimer's disease, so would do daft tricks, like letting go of the lift aid, I would hold her hands on it so she could not let go and fall, however it seems that was classed as domestic abuse, and I could be arrested for not allowing her to fall.
I know where my dad worked in a power station it was against the law to leave until your relieved, even if this resulted in a 48 hour shift, I also know when driving gritters and snow ploughs there was no drivers hours, medical staff are not the old professionals to end up in a no win situation, where what ever they do it is wrong, and no one should be placed in that situation, but courts in the UK can generate case law, and under international law you can not be found guilty of a crime if you committed it to prevent a greater crime taking place, so you can block the road to stop bank robbers getting away, so some one may try to take some one to court, but the chance of success is very slim.
So the engineering department was going directly against all the training given and using the BA to go into a dangerous situation. Lucky not me, as I have a beard, and the BA equipment would not seal on a beard.
The question is if you do some thing you have been trained not to do, who is at fault? Even if you are trained not to rescue your mate, you know if you could grab him and rescue him you would, i.e. actions above and beyond the call of duty, so the medical team know they should simply stand there and say sorry have to wait for a BA set, but you also know they will not, they will take risks, every job has some thing that we all do and we know we shouldn't, we all know the procedure, you work out a method to do the job, and you write out a method statement, then you do a risk assessment, and we all know often although we should write these out we don't, and when an accident happens the first thing the HSE ask for is the method statement and risk assessment, and if you don't have them, the finger of blame is pointed at you, and also if you don't follow the method written down in the method statement again the finger of blame is pointed at you.
I know this is not how it should be, but it is how it is.
I am so glad my mother is not alive now with all this going on, it was hard enough as it was, the health care professionals would follow the rules, my mother was not sectioned so if she said no, then they has to do as she said, she did have alzheimer's disease, so would do daft tricks, like letting go of the lift aid, I would hold her hands on it so she could not let go and fall, however it seems that was classed as domestic abuse, and I could be arrested for not allowing her to fall.
I know where my dad worked in a power station it was against the law to leave until your relieved, even if this resulted in a 48 hour shift, I also know when driving gritters and snow ploughs there was no drivers hours, medical staff are not the old professionals to end up in a no win situation, where what ever they do it is wrong, and no one should be placed in that situation, but courts in the UK can generate case law, and under international law you can not be found guilty of a crime if you committed it to prevent a greater crime taking place, so you can block the road to stop bank robbers getting away, so some one may try to take some one to court, but the chance of success is very slim.
