THE PROOF= DIY gas work is almost always illegal

[heatingman]

The regs don't say how, where, when,why, who, They just state " to work on gas....must be competant....competance defined as holding ACS and be registered with.....

 

[Rob]

Lets us just agree, legal or not, that DIY gas is potentially very dangerous.

It isn't because the man has to be competent.

But what if he isn't and blows something up. Was it still legal ?

No. He is not competent.

So you might say in that case then...DIY gaswork would be illegal

 

[WDIK]

COMPETENT

With regard to working with gas, its not simplely a matter of being able perform a task of "work"

It is. Doing it competently whether DIY or for gain. Got it? Is that beyond you?

at last hoist upon your own petard.

you chose to delberately selectively quote the content that suited you.

you missed the deff in brackets, meaning definition.

the work work has a deffinition stated with in the regs a point you wouldnt be aware of which is because you havent read the regs fully just skimped over looking for bits that suit you.

if you had any gas qualification at all you would know that, clearly you dont.

therefore you fall into the catagory of being poorly educated with refference to the content of the gas regs.

incidentley there is a thread in the combustion chamber currently discussing this thread and i would invite rgi's to contribute

 

[Nixt]

Did you fail your ACS & G3 DD,

I don't have any of that. Graduate engineers don't need such low qualifications.

In which case you must be doubly p**sed if you've have failed low qualifications.

 

[Corgigrouch]

DIY gas work is legal - get used to it!

I care not one jot if it is or isn't... But I am a little puzzled by you... Here you are shouting from the roof tops that DIY gas work is legal... Now some folks may be conscientious enough to do a very good job but what about those who are not able to do it safely.. They are armed with the information that it is perfectly ok for them to work on their own boiler but not with the ability to carry out a safe job.... DD does this not concern you? YOU sir are encouraging folk to make their gas appliances dangerous but be in the belief that this would be ok... Do you see how your sweeping statement could be mis understood, leading to the death of someone?

Now here is the thing that really puzzles me... Despite your lack of care for these people, you also show great concern for people when they ask about unvented systems, you go into great detail about how safe heat stores are and that unvented cylinders will explode if you look at them in a funny way...Similarly I really don't care about this aspect but I am curious as to whether you care about safety or not.... Come on, stop quoting and tell us... Do you care about public safety or not? because this is what we are all about.. it is why CORGI and every RGI with a brain will discourage DIY... You can pick holes in any piece of legislation if you are sad enough but what matters and this is what you are missing is not the letter but the principal of the regulations and why they were written in the first place and this I believe is to make gas safe, you are determined to encourage people to hurt themselves

 

[heatingman]

Driv, can you post me a link to the regs, as I said in a previous post, I thought the reference to work for profit or gain had been removed.

 

[scatmanjohn]

DD...whats ya stance on DIY unvented?

 

[GasMan1965]

Why do we waste so much energy on this ??

The guys a liability IMO !!

 

[Corgigrouch]

Disgusting things!! Bombs in your house. Competent DIYers doing gas is fine - the law says so.

But here is the problem.... How does a DIYer prove that he is competent to do the work?.. Does he wake up one morning, remembering what a good job he did fixing the toilet and then decide that he is competent to fix his boiler? or is there some legal definition that says what competent is?

How concerned are you in matters of safety?

 

[heatingman]

Thanks for that driv, I can see what your qouting from. They are refering to there being a ban on the sale of gas appliances & related parts to make any and all things related to diy gas illegal. The current legal controls are the gas regs which state.
To work on gas appliances/fitting (work in any capacity, paid free or DIY, as work is no longer for profit or gain defined) a person must be competant, competance defined as passed acs and registered. If a person works on gas and they do not cause a problem, they will get away with it , so to speak. If they work on gas and cause a problem they could be prosecuted for contravening the gas regs.
The other control in place is that all appliance installs now have to be registered and that can only be done by persons deemed as competant under the gas regs.
Any gas related work is illegal if not carried out by persons of a type as described by gas regs. The persons must be competant, and the describtion of competance is now clearly defined in gas regs.

Speeding is illegal, but they still sell cars that will break the speed limit.
You get away with it untill caught.
Diy gas work is illegal, but they still sell gas related to diy.
You get away with it untill caught

 

[Balenza]

heatingman wrote

Diy gas work is illegal

Fraid not.....

Doitall wrote

Point 1, DIY gas is not illegal in this Country, anyone can doitall

 

[heatingman]

Balenza, where did you get the doitall quote from??

 

[Balenza]

Balenza, where did you get the doitall quote from??

An earlier thread on this subject.
Like it ?.

 

[billy bob]

Who gives a flying **** if it is legal or not, responsible installers will not encourage DIY gas work, DIYers will not have the knowledge, nor the correct equipment to allow them to carry out the work safely, you Drivel are not a responsible installer, you are not an installer at all, you are a DIYer, that is why you are so concerned about this, well carry on DIYing Drivel, no one cares about you, but you will find that most good quality and responsible installers on this site will not give out advice on how to carry out gas work or repairs, and as you are not Corgi registered i think any gas advice you give should be deleted immediately.

 

[billy bob]

Who gives a flying **** if it is legal or not, responsible installers will not encourage DIY gas work,

Responsible, competent DIYers will not encourage CORGI men to come around to their house. And quite right. The HSE is up to their ears with these sub-standard CORGI installations. Inundated.

Of which you are one, DIYer that is and not responsible, and because of this you should not be advising on gas.