Trump v Zelenskyy

[gas112]

Putin started the war, not Zelensky…..the Putin that controls Trump

It’s not a corrupt regime, it’s a government in a country that has corruption same as every other country.

Ukraine is way less corrupt than Trump

TRUMP HAS NOT BEEN IN POWER FOR THE 3 YEARS OF THE WAR , regardless of who started it and why no way is ukraine going to win it or draw or get any where close to it . So instead of allowing hundreds of thousand of his country men women children to be killed he should have been straight to negotiating table cap in hand whatever instead of his ego allowing so many deaths and injuries over the past 3 years

 

[fillyboy]

Watched it a couple of times now - I think the villain tonight was Vance, Trump and Zelensky were heading in the right direction - then Vance started to tell Zelensky to say thank-you, he was trying to humiliate Zelensky -just appalling behaviour.

great shame this deal has been compromised by the ignorant Vance, I'm sure a deal had been done or all the cameras wouldn't have been there, Trump wanted to be seen clinching the deal, then Vance wrecked the whole thing.

It was always going to be difficult and some of the reasons go way back to Zelensky refusing to dish the dirt on Hunter Biden

 

[Lirefighter]

Had Zelensky's visit been yesterday and Starmer today, I wonder if the state visit would have been shelved?

I wouldn't put it past him.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Watched it a couple of times now - I think the villain tonight was Vance, Trump and Zelensky were heading in the right direction - then Vance started to tell Zelensky to say thank-you, he was trying to humiliate Zelensky -just appalling behaviour.

great shame this deal has been compromised by the ignorant Vance, I'm sure a deal had been done or all the cameras wouldn't have been there, Trump wanted to be seen clinching the deal, then Vance wrecked the whole thing.

I agree with this. If you watch the 'discussion' back, once or twice you see Vance glance (poet and don't know it) at the reporters with what I would describe as a 'good, it's working' look on his face.

Zelensky definitely walked into it, and perhaps Trump also.

 

[securespark]

About time someone told Zelensky that he is allowing hundreds of thousands of his countrymen to be killed purely to suit his ego .

To suit his ego?
Don't be crazy. So they should have just let the invaders in unopposed?

Vance is right he needs to thank the west for supplying him with weapons and financing his corrupt regime .

He has thanked the West. Didn't you know? And he doesn't run a corrupt regime.

 

[gas112]

joe biden refusing billions in aid till the prosecuter stopped investigating hunter and burisma ....Corruption broadcast to the world

 

[gas112]

He has thanked the West. Didn't you know?

off his own back or after being asked to , he has done nothing but moan about the west for months do try and keep up

 

[gas112]

To suit his ego?
Don't be crazy. So they should have just let the invaders in unopposed?

he could not stop the invaders no matter what he tried . He knows he wont stop them but continues to throw the young of the country into certain death without negotiating so yes ego from a failed actor

 

[Deleted member 142255]

off his own back or after being asked to , he has done nothing but moan about the west for months do try and keep up

Because the west has stopped him using the full force of the weapons and aircraft they supplied.

Keep up!

 

[Deleted member 142255]

he could not stop the invaders no matter what he tried . He knows he wont stop them but continues to throw the young of the country into certain death without negotiating so yes ego from a failed actor

And what about the thousands of youngsters Putin has sacrificed, and those that have fled Russia to not be in that position.

 

[gas112]

Because the west has stopped him using the full force of the weapons and aircraft they supplied.

Keep up!

so they supplied him with the weapons , biden told him he could use them in anyway he wanted ......do keep up
And if he didnt that was nothing to do with trump you know the guy who has only been in power 5 weeks

 

[gas112]

And what about the thousands of youngsters Putin has sacrificed, and those that have fled Russia to not be in that position.

and so what about the russian casualties they are the greater power who are going to win
that is neither here or there and nothing to do with zalenskey
oh have you missed the hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians who have fled there country and not wanting to fight to save it poland certainly hasnt missed them

 

[Lirefighter]

Because the west has stopped him using the full force of the weapons and aircraft they supplied.

Keep up!

This proxy war has been nothing more than a a concept testing exercise.

 

[transam]

Massive military power does not neccesarily mean you will succeed ??

Russians in Afghanistan
NATO in the same country

US in Vietnam

Russians in the Ukraine ( ?)

 

[fillyboy]

This proxy war has been nothing more than a a concept testing exercise.

Iran?, ballistic missiles? I'm curious to know what's playing out in Donalds mind, I know that to stabilise the Middle East he'll take out Iran or at least allow Israel the honour, North Korea also supply Russia, maybe take out NK and Iran which will weaken Russia, China will stay under the radar because of trade. Interesting.