Tyre Rotation, any point?

[securespark]

the DS was a 1971 car, I think

DVLA says 1972, but then it also thought it was orange, unless it had a colour change.

My Alfa had a colour change. Obviously green when new... It's really quite odd because when my Grandfather bought the car, he sent me a die cast model of an Alfasud and I painted it purple! Little did I know that 7 years later, I would inherit the car and when I sold it, it would be resprayed the same colour I painted the model!

 

[Avocet]

Cool! Ti, isn't it?

It was indeed! And much better than the lower-spec. ones with the single carb, because the flat 4 engine meant the inlet manifold had to be very long. He would have problems with it icing in winter. A carb on each bank was the answer.

 

[Avocet]

DVLA says 1972, but then it also thought it was orange, unless it had a colour change.
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My Alfa had a colour change. Obviously green when new... It's really quite odd because when my Grandfather bought the car, he sent me a die cast model of an Alfasud and I painted it purple! Little did I know that 7 years later, I would inherit the car and when I sold it, it would be resprayed the same colour I painted the model!

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As far as I know, it was always that maroon colour?

 

[securespark]

Maybe it changed, like my Alfa, after you sold it?

 

[securespark]

It was indeed! And much better than the lower-spec. ones with the single carb, because the flat 4 engine meant the inlet manifold had to be very long. He would have problems with it icing in winter. A carb on each bank was the answer.

I remember having a leak in the back box and taking it, funnily enough, to Mangoletsi, (who were just Alfa dealers in 85/ 6) for a new back box. You wouldn't believe how much better it drove with the new one on!

Fast forward to 2023 and (completely coincidentally) that's where we got our new EV from!

 

[Avocet]

Maybe it changed, like my Alfa, after you sold it?

Maybe, I guess, but I'm surprised that reg is even still on DVLA's computer - there wasn't a lot left of the car when I'd finished with it! It certainly got written-off during the time I had it, (not my fault, I hasten to add)! I then got given another one and nicked all the better bits off this one to make the best out of the pair of them!

 

[Avocet]

I remember having a leak in the back box and taking it, funnily enough, to Mangoletsi, (who were just Alfa dealers in 85/ 6) for a new back box. You wouldn't believe how much better it drove with the new one on!

Fast forward to 2023 and (completely coincidentally) that's where we got our new EV from!

This is my 4th 164, but one of the previous ones had a Mangoletsi sticker on it. When TVR were developing the "S" in the late '80s, they wanted to use the Alfa V6 and I think they had some discussion with Mangoletsi on supply of engines, but it wasn't to be, sadly. For what they wanted for just an engine, TVR could buy the Ford V6 - and gearbox, and diff, and brakes, and steering column!

 

[securespark]

I'm surprised that reg is even still on DVLA's computer

TBF, it isn't, when you look on the "tax check" site.

It only shows up if you look at the "MOT history" site.

 

[dishman]

This kind of links to my tyre rotation, but on another car.....

I need to share this to confirm I am not going mad.....


But I was checking something on a relatives car and whilst partially under the car I noticed on the inside inner tyre wall it says....."outside".

I then when to another tyre and again, on the inside tyrewall it says....."outside".

I can't locate the same thing on the other two tyres but this may be to do with rotation position.

But, none of the tyres say anything on the outside visible tyre wall other than the other normal information. So if they all have "outside" embossed on them, they must be all facing inside.

Annoyingly there is no "inside" mark which is facing out, which is probably how I missed it.

These tyres were fitted maybe 1.5 years ago from a local company via a well known tyre site.

Have this tyres all been fitted.....the wrong way round?!?

 

[pcaouolte]

They are being used outside.

On a serious note they are fitted to the wheels the wrong way round. They need to be refitted to the wheels so that the "outside" marks are on the outside surface. The other two may be ok. Only asymmetric tread patterns have the "Outside" marks.

 

[Burnerman]

As above - they need to be refitted if they are marked like that. This dictates the direction that the rubber was wound onto the tyre.
In real life I doubt if there is any difference, but insurers may think differently if there is some issue.
John

 

[dishman]

Yeh, it's what I thought/knew to be the case. I was just so baffled that they have got it so wrong that I wanted to double check I was not going mad.

The big issue may be an incorrect water dispersal pattern/direction and therefore reduced wet weather performance. That's the more concerning thing.

Some searches suggest higher wear if you have them on the wrong way, not sure how, but I guess the tread pattern might be designed with tow angle in mind....perhaps?

Anyway, I will get the fitting garage to correct their mistake.

All the tyres were fitted at the same time, so they are all the same brand/type, I just don't think I have seen the outside markers yet.

Edit: Apparently the inner and outer shoulder are often a different hardness of compound, with the outer shoulder softer as it only makes more prolonged contact in the corners and the extra grip is important. Whereas the inner shoulder is more durable as it has more constant direct contact.
Not sure if this is only the case for a certain price point of tyre, but interesting none the less.