The country is stuffed and the pain hasnt even started yet. No government can change that fact. Since 1945 the electorate has voted for their own selfish interests and put governments in who needed to borrow recklessly to get voted in. Periods of relative financial responsibility (Thatcher) were followed by criminal theft of our granchildren's savings (Blair/Brown). If somebody lined the recent labour govermnent up against the wall and machine gunned them i wouldnt really be that bothered.
UK Austerity
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The problem is that everyone buys the whole "austerity" deal, thinking we are making massive cuts, when in fact spending keeps going up, or at best stops increasing, the budget hasn't yet actually been reduced.
The government can't cut without cutting services, but they can't cut services because the press go "HOLOLOLO EVIL TORY CUTS", and of course a very large block of the population laps this **** up.
They then justify the "no cuts" meme by believing the absurd **** about tax dodgers here and there being the problem, as if somehow they can plug a hundred billion deficit with a few extra billion from tax dodgers.
This isnt labours fault.
It's the voters.
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Great idea, However the bullets would probably bounce off of Teflon Tony.
Labour did what they were voted to do, everything they did was in line with their principles as stated by their behaviour and previous actions, though maybe not so clear in their manifesto.
Labour are not to blame, the 40% or so who voted for them are.
Labour are not to blame, the 40% or so who voted for them are.
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EddieM
Oh please, Thatcher set the seeds of long term economic destruction of this country. Blair / Brown simply used public borrowing to invent artificial public sector jobs, this is a nightmare 40 years in the making. Well parties over, hangover, enormous, we are not educated, skilled, hard working, or relevant on the world stage anymore.
Oh and ur house aint worth anything remotely near what you think it is worth, halve it, then think downwards from there.
In maggies day the torys found having loads of people out of work kept wages down all part of a new dream do away with the old industries and become a banking nation where, all the people at the bottom would benefit from trickle-down it never came,later government used open door policies to the same ends, as they did in America open doors between mexico and Canada, so instead of having better wages we all took bank loans instead and here we are now
The seeds of long term economic destruction were sown long before thatchers day.
The far east was churning out far superior engineers and their equipment was flooding the world.
We bought Hitachi diggers in the mid eighties. British built was Hymac and JCB. Both inferior. (Though JCB has caught up now)
Thats just one example. There's thousands!
You used to see the adverts in the eighties about japanese cars where the factory floor workers met with management to forward their design input whilst the factory workers here in the uk were meeting with management to tell them .."er were going out on strike guvnor".
The far east was churning out far superior engineers and their equipment was flooding the world.
We bought Hitachi diggers in the mid eighties. British built was Hymac and JCB. Both inferior. (Though JCB has caught up now)
Thats just one example. There's thousands!
You used to see the adverts in the eighties about japanese cars where the factory floor workers met with management to forward their design input whilst the factory workers here in the uk were meeting with management to tell them .."er were going out on strike guvnor".
There are creators and bean counters , when the bean counters have all power a crisis in capital will come , i didnt mean to sound like a fortune cookie
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compheat
I didn't realise that this forum was a tory strong hold.
Its funny how we all look at something and come up with a totally different view point,
Its a bit like the offside rule.
The main problem is we live and work under a system that is flawed as are a lot of other political systems by the greed of a few at the cost of the rest of us.
Its funny how we all look at something and come up with a totally different view point,
Its a bit like the offside rule.
The main problem is we live and work under a system that is flawed as are a lot of other political systems by the greed of a few at the cost of the rest of us.
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It's not - it's a common sense stronghold.
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compheat
If it was common sense then we could see that its not all down to labour.
If people think that the Tory party are a party of common sense the there in for a shock
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joinerjohn
Perhaps you'd like to enlighten us with the answer to this dilemma ?
In our personal lives, if we don't have enough money (and can't borrow any) we go without.
We can blame successive governments till we're blue in the face, but it won't solve anything.
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