Unemployment keeps on rising.

[joe-90]

So unemployment is set to rise for at least the next five years.

So can someone tell me why it's a good idea to let migrants steal the jobs that are available??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-17979559

 

[subman101]

Here's an opening half hearted and not entirely thought out gambit, but it'll get the ball rolling.

UK citizens are by-and-large safely embedded in their housing stock and can rely on other family members to keep them afloat. Therefore you need a labour force to be aspirational in its spending patterns if you are to keep markets going. Migrants still have some curious desire to live like westerners and therefore have this aspiration, so it's them who should get the jobs.

 

[JohnD]

migrants steal the jobs

that's an interesting point, Joe. When you walk round hospitals and care homes, you find a very high proportion of non-natives doing the less attractive work. However this is not because the locals have been chained to their sofas and forced to watch Jeremy Kyle, it's because they can't be arsed to do the low-paid, tiring, unpleasant jobs.

Luckily for them it is possible to live and not starve even if they don't work.

 

[joinerjohn]

The unemployed people round our way, all seem to have the top of the range TV's, Smartphones, Laptops and Computers. They all have a better car than I can afford. They seem to be able to spend endless hours in the local, drinking pints. I work for my money and can only afford to go to darts on Tuesday evenings and out to the club/pub once at the weekend.
Can anyone tell me where I'm going wrong?
I was on the dole last year, and couldn't even afford to go to the local, once in 3 months.

 

[gremlin16]

When you walk round hospitals and care homes, you find a very high proportion of non-natives doing the less attractive work.

Yes, such as nurses, doctors, consultants, surgeons . Definitely less attractive work

 

[spacecat]

yawn yawn ..same old questions same old answers

 

[joe-90]

Yes and not one explains the economic madness of filling a country which is going down the gurgle with more people that it doesn't need.

 

[Whitespirit66]

Yes and not one explains the economic madness of filling a country which is going down the gurgle with more people that it doesn't need.

It's to shake us up, and try to stop us getting too comfortable. The last thing the government, and the big businesses that hold a lot of power, want is a situation like the late 50s and 60s. Then we had full employment, and people could pick and choose. The power was with the workers, who got greedy, demanding more and more for less effort. It ended in tears in the 70s.

Flooding the country with cheap, willing labour keeps wages low, and keeps the pressure on indigenous workers to put up and shut up. It's working very well for the companies. There's a huge pool of labour out there - just look at the unemployment figures for under 25s, now 20%. You have to put in hundreds of job applications, attend dozens of interviews, send of detailed CVs, complete aptitude tests - all for a low-skill, temporary, minimum-wage job.

That's what big business wants. Funny thing is, it was a socialist government that sold out the working classes to keep the company bosses happy.

 

[joe-90]

But cheap labour doesn't pay tax - so who pays the benefits for the unemployed? No-one - that's where the eternal borrowing comes in - it is economic madness.

 

[enyam]

it is economic madness.

It may well be Joe,but there is no one who has come with a credible answer to it.

 

[joe-90]

Stop importing workers that we don't need - that's a pretty good start.

 

[enyam]

I said credible.

 

[Whitespirit66]

But cheap labour doesn't pay tax - so who pays the benefits for the unemployed?

The squeezed middle.

 

[joe-90]

That is credible. We have over a million young unemployed.

 

[joe-90]

But cheap labour doesn't pay tax - so who pays the benefits for the unemployed?

The squeezed middle.

There aren't enough of them - we borrow.