Voter ID

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But we are leaving so indeed it means nothing.

Therefore what point were you trying to make bringing up Greece?

The point is or was that certain countries have compulsory voting . Some of which are in Europe or the EU , which imo are worth noting.

The fact that the Democratic Republic of the Congo , or Bolivia, or Brazil , or Eygpt have compulsory voting is ?? well :LOL:
 
The point is or was that certain countries have compulsory voting . Some of which are in Europe or the EU , which imo are worth noting.
Although only a few...

However unlike our antiquated parliamentary FPTP system, EU elections are PR based.

Also worth noting?
 
Anyway, back to the topic...

Who will be happy to hear the english version of 'papiere bitte' over and over again?

Because if you need to have ID to vote, then you'll need ID to access all the services you are entitled to!

And not only that. You'll have to produce your ID to any corporate who demands it!

Worth it to weed out the single vote that was proved to be illegally cast last time around?
 
The point is or was that certain countries have compulsory voting . Some of which are in Europe or the EU , which imo are worth noting.

Voting is a democratic right not a responsibility, and it needs consent, that's why you sign a declaration on the electrol roll form. Its a contract between you and the state. If it didn't need consent the government would not be a democracy it would be a dictatorship. The freedom not to vote is just as important as the freedom to vote. So there is no such thing as compulsory voting in a democratic country. Maybe in North Korea.
 
this is like a kafka nightmare

"where are your papers?"

are we doomed to repeat the failures of the past?
 
this is like a kafka nightmare

"where are your papers?"

are we doomed to repeat the failures of the past?

Lol you don't care about freedoms it just worries you that it would filter out a lot of the dross labour voters. Not the same motivation at all.
 
Well from early reports it appears that far more people (in just a few trial areas) have been turned away from voting due to a lack of ID than were ever found to have committed electoral fraud.

So is it a wise 'precaution', or a real world equivalent of (You have insufficient privileges to reply here.)?
Mission accomplished?
A spokesman for the prime minister, asked about reports of some voters being turned away, said: “The overwhelming number of people are casting their vote without a problem."
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/may/03/uk-voters-turned-away-polling-stations-id-trial

:rolleyes:
 
Lol you don't care about freedoms it just worries you that it would filter out a lot of the dross labour voters. Not the same motivation at all.

Irony in your post is breathtaking. Freedom to vote without having to prove who you are. Freedom from fear of not having to justify yourself through identification when it's not required.

Tax havens and lobbying has a far more detrimental effect on democracy than the trumped up notion of voter if fraud.
 
If voting changed anything they would have banned it years ago.
To an extent you are correct.

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes it's laws" (y)
 
Every now and then politicians come up with new wheezes to enhance their vote / gerrymander the result...

Beneficial boundary changes is a popular one.

However the tories are particularly astute at attempting to disenfranchise those they believe would not vote for them.

The poll tax - linked to the electoral register
Individual voter registration
Voter ID

All of those disproportionately attack the poorest in society - the very people they perceive would be less likely to vote tory.

And now of course we have to add to the mix 'paid for' electoral targetting and electoral 'fraud'!

Why aren't they banning activities such as those carried out by organisations such as Cambridge Analytica?

Because of course the electorate is to be manipulated at every opportunity!
 
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