When the Nazis took on Albion.....

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Joe stalin gave no hope for the British standing up to the Germans after hitler took most of Europe

stalin went out of his way to appease hitler

snd was totally shocked and taken by surprise when hitler launched operation Barbarossa against Russia he refused to believe the first reports of the invasion
His army collapsed en masse at the start

Johnny boy doesn't understand the point of the post

Essentially the intellectual capacity for thinking outside of the box for the British as opposed to the rigid thinking of the dumb Germans. HISTORICALLY SPEAKING.

 

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check that.

Start with German losses on the Eastern front.

Because The Germans were stupid enough to invade Russia

 

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Just the English involved, no Welsh, Scots, N Irish, or other allies, thats not a fact gents

Come on keep up dear chap.

Albion is the composite who said English did you read that in to all by yourself ?

 

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The biggest mistake the Germans made was opening up a 2nd front and invading Russia

they learnt nothing from history

and under estimated Russians capacity and actual size

and quite how ruthless joe was

60 miles from Moscow and they send a massive army to Stalingrad

 

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Anthony beever think he is the author ? wrote a very well researched book on Stalingrad

I find Beevor a poor writer to be honest, some writers grip your attention Beevor may be accurate but he's boring to read ...dont you know.

 

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Are you actually British?

Do you feel any pride in your country?

No he feels no pride in the historic accomplishments of this country nor what it has given the world. Posts on Britain ?
He deletes them. He's a mod that abuses his position. Penicillin for one thing Britain has given the world.

 

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I find Beevor a poor writer to be honest, some writers grip your attention Beevor may be accurate but he's boring to read ...dont you know.

I disagree I have read his Stalingrad book ( just my opinion)

 

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Britain was in effect a aircraft carrier, the Americans by day and the brits by night a springboard to attack the third reich.

Albert speer said defending the reich from bomber attacks was a third front with the amount of guns and men required.

When the occupied countries heard the bombers flying on a night to bomb Germany it gave them hope .....someone was fighting the nazis.

 

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I disagree I have read his Stalingrad book ( just my opinion)

Your perfectly entitled to disagree.....I just find him a poor writer some writers you can't wait to read their next words....Beevor isn't like that for me.

 

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This quote is interesting from Bletchleypark.org.uk if you dig deeper there may be other contradictions your facts

. A small group of American service personnel were also brought over and integrated into a number of the Sections. The was the first time many of the UK staff had met an American, but the visitors fitted in very well.

They were brought in after the fact look it up.

Turing was the genius, his end was shameful.

 

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Operation Jericho

Operation Jericho ("Ramrod 564"), was allocated to 140 Wing, RAF 2nd Tactical Air Force.[10] Eighteen de Havilland Mosquito FB Mk VIs, six from No. 487 Squadron RNZAF (Wing Commander Irving "Black" Smith), six of No. 464 Squadron RAAF (Wing Commander Bob Iredale), both being Article XV squadrons. Six Mosquitos of 21 Squadron (Wing Commander Danny Dale) were to follow up in case the raid failed and bomb the gaol, killing the prisoners.[11][c] A photographic reconnaissance (PR) Mosquito was laid on for the Royal Air Force Film Production Unit (FPU), to film the raid. The raid was provisionally set for 17 February; the Mosquitos were to arrive over the prison at noon sharp, to catch the guards at lunch for the second wave to bomb them. The plan was divulged to the Resistance for them to tip off the underground in the gaol and to arrange for accomplices to be waiting outside.[13]

Air Vice-Marshal Basil Embry, the officer commanding 2 Group, intended to lead the raid but was overruled and forced to stand down because he was involved in the planning of the Invasion of Normandy. Group Captain Percy Pickard, the RAF Hunsdon station commander took over command, despite having limited experience of low-level attack.[14][d] Each Mosquito squadron was to have an escort of one Hawker Typhoon squadron, 174 Squadron and 245 Squadron from RAF Westhampnett and a squadron provided by Air Defence of Great Britain (the part of Fighter command not transferred to the 2nd Tactical Air Force) from RAF Manston.[16] A plaster of paris model of the gaol was built, based on photographs and other details sent from France, a common practice in RAF planning.[17] The model showed the prison as it would look at a distance of 4 mi (6.4 km) at a height of 1,500 ft (460 m); attacking at such low altitude needed careful timing to avoid collisions.[14][e] Bomb load for the Mosquitos was two 500 lb (230 kg) Semi-armour piercing (SAP) bombs for the outer walls and two 500 lb (230 kg) Medium Capacity (MC) for the inner walls all fuzed for 11 seconds' delay.[18][f] The first section of three aircraft from 487 Squadron were to attack the eastern wall at 12:00 at low altitude, using the main road as a guide onto the target, the second three to make a north–south attack on the northern wall once the first bombs had exploded. The first section of 464 Squadron RAAF would attack the south–eastern end of main building three minutes later and the second section would attack the north–western end.[20]

Cutting and pasting clever boy !

 

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Pretty much ...... yes....

If Britain fell to the Germans... the Americans and our allies would not have had a base to free Europe from occupation.

The German's then would have went on to defeat Russia. America would not have the support of its people or the capability to free Europe from German from afar. We would be speaking German......

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The Russians then would have went on to defeat Germany. America would not have the support of its people or the capability to free Europe from Russian hands from afar.
We would be speaking Russian.


Take your pick.....

Any chance of a Derby winner?

 

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Cutting and pasting clever boy !

Its quite a simple task , try it sometime