Wiring a new motor for kingspan klargester

[chip51]

Hello everyone.

I have bought a replacement motor for my BA biodisc klargester. Unfortunately for me the new motor is an updated version made by panasonic and wiring is a bit different. This new motor has 5 connections where the old motor had 4. Im trying to figure out where the wires go on this new motor, I will post some photos of old and new motors. There is a capacitor unit box which the wires go through on inside of klargester. Any help is appreciated thank you.

 

[chip51]

This is the old motor with wiring diagram. Thanks.

 

[jj4091]

You need to ask the supplier or manufacturer for a wiring diagram suitable for UK use, unless someone on here has previously installed one.

 

[polesapart]

http://www.klar-environment.com/pdf/PD0094-24BA-BB_Installation_Guidelines.pdf

page 10 might be of use

Disclaimer: I'd talking to klargester technical help before taking this on (or employing a pro)

 

[Scally-Ho]

@chips51 Are you sure that 'new' motor is new? Looking at the corrosion/rust on the screws of that terminal block, I think it has been in use before.

 

[fixitflav]

If you get no joy from Klargester, might be worth posting on Electrics UK

 

[chip51]

Sorry the motor has been refurbished, Its a second hand unit.

 

[chip51]

Thank you for your replies.

I have found this page on the internet which seems to be a data sheet of this motor. It says I need a 3uF capacitor. As I have a 2uF installed this will need to be changed.

I just want to see how far I can push this along before I consult the professionals.

The page also says the 2 blue wires are for a stop start latching circuit. I have no idea what that is yet so more research is needed. I'm sure the old viper motor didn't have that.

Also I think the screw near the connector is the earth connection.

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Might be worth asking in the Electrical section, I know how the Biodisc's work but wouldn't know where to start wiring that motor up!

 

[trojanhawrs]

The P wires are a thermal switch as mentioned, this is linked through the overload to the coil of the contactor. Take a picture of your starter panel

 

[chip51]

Hi trojanhawrs,

Thanks for your reply, by starter panel do you mean the capacitor box? (which I need to upgrade to a 3uF) or the green panel box that displays faults? is linking it through the overload to the coil of the contactor something I can do? I'm sorry I don't know what that means.

 

[trojanhawrs]

Both, it would be good to see the entire setup

 

[chip51]

These are pics of the green panel and capacitor box. I will be replacing the capacitor box with a 3uF capacitor and new wiring as this one is in pretty bad shape, looks like wires have been cut and connected together with wago blocks.

 

[trojanhawrs]

Ideally I would fit a motor starter box, that way you could wire the switch through the coil and it won't automatically restart when the motor cools. Alternatively I think you can wire it to an alarm input on the PCB, don't think it will stop the motor though. You could also just ignore it.

 

[Scally-Ho]

Ideally I would fit a motor starter box, that way you could wire the switch through the coil and it won't automatically restart when the motor cools. Alternatively I think you can wire it to an alarm input on the PCB, don't think it will stop the motor though. You could also just ignore it.

Now THAT'S a proper job