Sorry to hear about the cancer. Best of luck- for what it is worth.
Your Will and Arrangements
- Thread starter BlueLoo
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Sorry to hear about the cancer. Best of luck- for what it is worth.
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If you have a young family hope and pray that you die a natural death because if you are killed by a drugged driver while on your way to work one morning the law will ensure that your family are in for a world pain. As far as the law is concerned your family can't suffer enough. It doesn't care that you had life insurance, made a will, had money in the bank to pay your mortgage and bills. Doesn't care that you had 3 young children and a wife at home who were expecting to see you home from work later that day. If a stinking pos killed you then your family will have to wait for the law to take its course before your family can get the money that is rightfully theirs. They won't grant probate and your life insurance won't pay out until a full death certificate has been issued. The coroner won't do that until legal proceedings have ended.
You can be dead enough to cremate. Make a final tax return. Close some accounts once an interim death certificate has been issued. But you are not dead enough in the eyes of the law and those who have your money until the coroner issues a full death certificate. They are business run in pursuit of profit. As far as they are concerned you should have made provision for your family incase you suffer an untimely death while you were alive (The Banks and insurers can help you with that)
And as the criminal justice system in this country is a chaotic mess far worse than you can possibly imagine. Your family could find themselves in dire straits for a very long time.
You can be dead enough to cremate. Make a final tax return. Close some accounts once an interim death certificate has been issued. But you are not dead enough in the eyes of the law and those who have your money until the coroner issues a full death certificate. They are business run in pursuit of profit. As far as they are concerned you should have made provision for your family incase you suffer an untimely death while you were alive (The Banks and insurers can help you with that)
And as the criminal justice system in this country is a chaotic mess far worse than you can possibly imagine. Your family could find themselves in dire straits for a very long time.
Going back to the OP, the relative left nothing, NOTHING, so a will makes no difference, as stated earlier just leave it to the authorities to sort out, and if that's a paupers grave or cremation or gift to medical science so be it, I doubt he cared one way or the other.
Hum - probate can easily take 9 months
And it would have to be extremely unusual circumstances for a death certificate no to be issued for months .................
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And people moan about there not being enough money for public services.
If I had a relative die in such circumstances I would do my best to sort out their affairs even it it cost me money
Are you certain about that? I thought you could obtain the money from bank accounts with an interim death certificate.
In fact, I believe you can also get probate with an interim certificate. Life insurance is a different matter, I think.
I am not a lawyer, but I suspect that cremating living people might be illegal.
I'm as certain as I can be. My daughter will have to wait until legal proceedings are over before she is granted probate. Sam was killed almost 15 months ago.
Sorry, my previous post was ill judged.
I am so sorry to hear that.
I have just checked again and I am sure you can get probate with an interim certificate. This is from the government website:
Death certificates
If you need proof of the death while you wait for the inquest to finish, ask the coroner for an interim death certificate.Once the inquest is over, you can get the final death certificate from the registrar.
You can use either certificate to:
- apply for probate
- report the death to more than one government organisation using Tell Us Once - the registrar can help you to do this
opps, You weren't to know.
To be clear. My daughter has applied for probate. The issue is that it won't be granted until the criminal legal proceedings have ended.
Your daughters circumstances are certainly not good and also unusual - fingers crossed you are helping out as much as you can and she has accessed as much help from the state as she can. An awful situation she must be in.
Regarding the life insurance I suspect the companies will do their best to pay out promptly once the full death certificate is issued
Out of interest what does she need probate for or were they not married?
Regarding the life insurance I suspect the companies will do their best to pay out promptly once the full death certificate is issued
Out of interest what does she need probate for or were they not married?
My (lay) understanding is that if you specifically leave a nominal sum, such as a fiver, you have expressed your intent and they cannot contest things, whereas if you leave them nothing, they can contest the lack of a legacy. I might be wrong though. I often am.
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