COMIC RELIEF - DISGRACEFUL

[pred]

JBR I thought you were going to concentrate your efforts on the primitive people of Lancashire? AS comes from Buckinghamshire..

 

[Whitespirit66]

Google wrote

Most of the misery and famine which is unfolding in Africa today has its roots in imperialism, in the colonisation of African countries by European armies and business interests.
To argue that overpopulation is the cause of famine is not only to overlook all the historical factors but it is also seeks to blame the people of Africa themselves.

Imperialism smashed the traditional African cycle of agriculture (subsistence farming) by demanding that Africans pay taxes in cash. This meant growing crops for sale on national and international markets.

So by that token, yes you are in debt to africa and should dig deep and pay them their dues.

You're not seriously putting this lefty twaddle up as an argument? Really?
Weren't the Indians colonised as well? They seem to be able to get their act together. Even got their own space programme. Imagine an African space programme. The metal it was made of would be stolen to make new shacks, before you could say "Harare, we have a problem"

Africa's biggest problem is the African. Remove them from the picture, and the continent would be as successful as India, China or S. America. Or even Europe. With Africans, it will ALWAYS be dirt poor.


Also - ArogantSurly has really lost it, big time. The shakier his arguments get, the more hysterical he becomes and the more juvenile his insults.

Grow up if you want to debate with the big boys.

 

[Norcon]

Its not lefty twaddle its fact.

Google wrote

The 2Oth century has seen a huge expansion in the acreage devoted to growing cash crops such as tea, coffee, cotton, rubber, cocoa, and ground nuts. Today much of the most fertile land in Africa is growing cash crops. Half of the food growing land in Senegal is growing peanuts for western margarine firms. Cash crops involve intensive cultivation and the extensive use of fertilisers which has led to land degradation, an increase in desert areas and the poisoning of the water table. The bulk of external debt in Africa is owed to Western governments.

Slavery and the damage it did to Africa is a significant factor in the underdevelopment and poverty which is never acknowledged by Western countries. Between 1701 and 1810 more than six million Africans were transported to the Americas to provide free labour for large farmers and businessmen. This haemorrhage of young men and women crippled African society

External debt and falling commodity prices have had a crippling impact on African economies during the past decade. In the 1970s Western banks encouraged many less developed countries to borrow heavily. This borrowing, supposedly for roads and irrigation projects and so on was often siphoned off for personal use by dictators or wasted on useless projects or on arms. The money was borrowed at low interest rates. Interest rates jumped from 6% to 18% in a few years, dramatically increasing the debts. In 1990 African debt was double what it was in 1980.

African countries were forced to call in the International Monetary Fund (IMF) to seek a way out of their problems. However the 'solutions' of the I.M.F. have been to impose draconian and brutal cutbacks in health and education, and the abolition of food subsidies. This is a capitalist solution to a problem caused by capitalism in the first place. Famine, desperate poverty and the complete absence of health and education services are the result for millions of Africans

 

[pred]

RONCON, The slavery you talk about, can you answer me the following please.

1. Who rounded up the natives to sell them as slaves??
2. Who then sold them to the white men??

 

[Whitespirit66]

Norcon. Your cut and paste Google argument - how recent is it? It still seems to think we are in the 20th century.

The 2Oth century has seen

What have the Africans been doing since slavery ended 200 years ago?

Can you cut and paste something to show that Africans are in some way responsible for their own predicament?

 

[Norcon]

RONCON, The slavery you talk about, can you answer me the following please.

1. Who rounded up the natives to sell them as slaves??
2. Who then sold them to the white men??

I'll answer the questions and take you seriously when you stop the childish name re arranging.

 

[pred]

RONCON, The slavery you talk about, can you answer me the following please.

1. Who rounded up the natives to sell them as slaves??
2. Who then sold them to the white men??

I'll answer the questions and take you seriously when you stop the childish name re arranging.

There is no "a" in Pred..

 

[Norcon]

RONCON, The slavery you talk about, can you answer me the following please.

1. Who rounded up the natives to sell them as slaves??
2. Who then sold them to the white men??

I'll answer the questions and take you seriously when you stop the childish name re arranging.

There is no "a" in Pred..

OOps my mistake.

 

[JBR]

JBR I thought you were going to concentrate your efforts on the primitive people of Lancashire? AS comes from Buckinghamshire..

Ah, that explains it. I'm willing to educate the Lankies but I never signed up to be a nursery teacher in Bucks.

 

[JBR]

Africa's biggest problem is the African. Remove them from the picture, and the continent would be as successful as India, China or S. America. Or even Europe. With Africans, it will ALWAYS be dirt poor.

I'd go along with that. My father-in-law was a sergeant-major and served some time in West Africa. He maintained that the average African is a lazy so-and-so and that therein lies their lack of prosperity.

Also - ArogantSurly has really lost it, big time. The shakier his arguments get, the more hysterical he becomes and the more juvenile his insults.

Grow up if you want to debate with the big boys.

Yes indeed. I'm still waiting to see whether he has the nerve to honestly tell me his age.

 

[Whitespirit66]

Africa's biggest problem is the African. Remove them from the picture, and the continent would be as successful as India, China or S. America. Or even Europe. With Africans, it will ALWAYS be dirt poor.

I'd go along with that. My father-in-law was a sergeant-major and served some time in West Africa. He maintained that the average African is a lazy so-and-so and that therein lies their lack of prosperity.

This is an interesting video of the once prosperous Hillbrow area of Johannesburg. After majority rule, did it prosper under the new 'management', or descend into a crime filled, derelict, rubbish strewn, hell-hole with sewage running in the streets? What do you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LW6lOdxqSUE

 

[joe-90]

It looked like Tower Hamlets to me.

 

[Whitespirit66]

It looked like Tower Hamlets to me.

That's probably twinned with Soweto. Not a million miles away.

 

[AronSearle]

I didn't advocate either sterilisation or child murder.

you advocated a one child policy, now you want to claim you didn't advocate either forced sterilisation or child murder.

I think someone needs to sit you down and tell you about the birds and the bee's, seems you don't know a few things.

Now reading this thread I'm not sure if I have accidental signed onto the BNP forum.

Must be, I'm an ahole and aholes love the BNP!

 

[JBR]

I didn't advocate either sterilisation or child murder.

you advocated a one child policy, now you want to claim you didn't advocate either forced sterilisation or child murder.

I think someone needs to sit you down and tell you about the birds and the bee's, seems you don't know a few things.

Now reading this thread I'm not sure if I have accidental signed onto the BNP forum.

Must be, I'm an ahole and aholes love the BNP!

Are you still here?

Listen sonny, you've effectively lost this little argument. If you don't believe me please show me where I advocated child murder. For the record, I am not against forced sterilisation in this instance.

Presumably, you are now accusing me of being unaware of the 'birds and the bees' (please note, no apostrophe in bees) and also of being a member of the BNP.

I think I have no quibble with your final sentence, though.

Are you going to tell us how old you are? I must have asked at least three times now.