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Temporary Electrical Repairs
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True, but I don't think anyone has suggested, or even implied, a 'do absolutely nothing' solution (i.e. leave the circuit with an N-E fault connected to the RCD which may serve most of the house). Disconnecting the faulty RFC would result in loss of only the sockets on that circuit, and some provision (even if only by extension leads) could be made to temporarily power anything on the circuit that crucially needed power before the next morning.
Kind Regards, John.
One has to think about someone fool enough to replace a non rcd cu for an rcd cu without doing any tests first, discovering a L-N fault, then removing the new rcd temporarily if he hasn't time to locate the fault.
Fortunately an experienced electrician should find such a fault fairly quickly - but as we know it's not always going to be the case.
Fortunately an experienced electrician should find such a fault fairly quickly - but as we know it's not always going to be the case.
And regarding this particular fault then simple fault finding would enable you to be able to reinstate the power by eliminating the faulty part of the circuit. Either as 2 radials or as one radial protected via a suitably sized protected device.
It is just not good enough to say it's late at night so you are happy to leave this fault to another time to fix!
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True, but I can well see that 'late at night', the quickest (hence favoured) option might well be to simply disconnect the whole circuit and, as I said, provide a temporary supply for anything that can't go without power until the next morning.
Kind Regards, John.
Possibly yet as the op has not specified a time it could be relativity early. Why does every one think it's at 10:00 PM? And lets face it if you can't split a ring and locate the fault in decent time then you surely are not ready to cover an out of hours service are you!
typo ?
True, but we do know that it was 'out-of-hours'. It might have been even later than 10pm
Also probably true, although I guess it could take a significant time if the topgraphy of the ring wasn't too obvious and/or if there were problems of access to sockets. Anyway, the 'out-of-hours' hourly rate that some folk charge are such that I would imagine they'd be quite keen to do a lengthy job
Kind Regards, John.
Also probably true, although I guess it could take a significant time if the topgraphy of the ring wasn't too obvious and/or if there were problems of access to sockets. Anyway, the 'out-of-hours' hourly rate that some folk charge are such that I would imagine they'd be quite keen to do a lengthy job
Kind Regards, John.
That is simply not good enough. How about if you were working on this same fault and it was coming to you finish time say 17:00. Would you be happy leaving the fault or would you stay and identify and leave power on in a safe manner. I know what I would do in my duty of care! Splitting a ring is not difficult and if you are not able to do it in a reasonable time then out of hours call out is not for you, is it?
Don't forget what some customers are like.
Had one once who complained I was using her electricity for my drill.
Had one once who complained I was using her electricity for my drill.
Then with that logic you would just let the tenant know that they either have the sockets disconnected or that you are given the time to do the necessary works to get the sockets on in a safe manner!
I'm not trying to take sides. We all know what the proper/ideal solutiona are. However, I also recognise that, in the real world, the 'ideal' will sometimes not be the favoured option.
Provided the customer is agreeable, I see nothing wrong with the option of disconnecting the circuit for a few hours (and, if necessary, providing temporary power for anything crucial like heating and freezers during that period).
Kind Regards, John.
Me too, although the delay is not entirely, or even significantly, down to laziness - room rearrangement meant new furniture, and until sorted the final position of the dining table, and therefore the light, could not be determined, and all that only got finally sorted today (we eventually gave up looking for what we really wanted and took the Swedish flat-pack default, on the grounds that if we do then find something where we say "Oh yes, that's it", the SFP can be ditched without too much financial woe).
So now all (
) that remains is dismantling the bed, cutting a bit of the carpet under it away, and lifting floorboards in the room above to get access to install the new light.I sometimes think that if I managed to draw a PERT chart of all the improvements we want to do it would look like a Möbius strip.....
I challenge the term "electrician".
Stop there - he's not an electrician, he's a charlatan.
Builder had clearly broken the Construction (Design and Management) Regulations - solution is to find rabid solicitor and debt collectors/bailiffs and if necessary make him utterly destitute if that's what it takes to get recompense.
Not unless "I can see why" means "I can see why he worked on things outwith his competence with a completely callous disregard for the outcome of his egregious incompetence."
Good temporary in that situation?
(Temporary = until next working day)
Choc-block in choc-box which you push into the ceiling void and away from the hole, which you then seal over with gaffer tape.
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