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True, but I don't think anyone has suggested, or even implied, a 'do absolutely nothing' solution (i.e. leave the circuit with an N-E fault connected to the RCD which may serve most of the house). Disconnecting the faulty RFC would result in loss of only the sockets on that circuit, and some provision (even if only by extension leads) could be made to temporarily power anything on the circuit that crucially needed power before the next morning.This faulty RFC is on an RCD with <some number> of unspecified other circuits. Thus the fault will knock out all those other circuits, not just the sockets. Worst case (bad design) would be all circuits on one RCD meaning absolutely nothing in the house working. Thus the tenant may well be moaning about "no lights, no power, no ..." and they aren't going to accept "can't fix it now, I'll be back in the morning".
True, but I don't think anyone has suggested, or even implied, a 'do absolutely nothing' solution (i.e. leave the circuit with an N-E fault connected to the RCD which may serve most of the house). Disconnecting the faulty RFC would result in loss of only the sockets on that circuit, and some provision (even if only by extension leads) could be made to temporarily power anything on the circuit that crucially needed power before the next morning.
Kind Regards, John.
True, but I can well see that 'late at night', the quickest (hence favoured) option might well be to simply disconnect the whole circuit and, as I said, provide a temporary supply for anything that can't go without power until the next morning.And regarding this particular fault then simple fault finding would enable you to be able to reinstate the power by eliminating the faulty part of the circuit. Either as 2 radials or as one radial protected via a suitably sized protected device.
True, but I can well see that 'late at night', the quickest (hence favoured) option might well be to simply disconnect the whole circuit and, as I said, provide a temporary supply for anything that can't go without power until the next morning.And regarding this particular fault then simple fault finding would enable you to be able to reinstate the power by eliminating the faulty part of the circuit. Either as 2 radials or as one radial protected via a suitably sized protected device.
Kind Regards, John.
True, but we do know that it was 'out-of-hours'. It might have been even later than 10pmyet as the op has not specified a time it could be relativity early. Why does every one think it's at 10:00 PM?
Also probably true, although I guess it could take a significant time if the topgraphy of the ring wasn't too obvious and/or if there were problems of access to sockets. Anyway, the 'out-of-hours' hourly rate that some folk charge are such that I would imagine they'd be quite keen to do a lengthy jobAnd lets face it if you can't split a ring and locate the fault in decent time then you surely are not ready to cover an out of hours service are you!
Also probably true, although I guess it could take a significant time if the topgraphy of the ring wasn't too obvious and/or if there were problems of access to sockets. Anyway, the 'out-of-hours' hourly rate that some folk charge are such that I would imagine they'd be quite keen to do a lengthy job
Kind Regards, John.
Don't forget what some customers are like.
Had one once who complained I was using her electricity for my drill.
I'm not trying to take sides. We all know what the proper/ideal solutiona are. However, I also recognise that, in the real world, the 'ideal' will sometimes not be the favoured option.That is simply not good enough. How about if you were working on this same fault and it was coming to you finish time say 17:00. Would you be happy leaving the fault or would you stay and identify and leave power on in a safe manner. I know what I would do in my duty of care! Splitting a ring is not difficult and if you are not able to do it in a reasonable time then out of hours call out is not for you, is it?
Me too, although the delay is not entirely, or even significantly, down to laziness - room rearrangement meant new furniture, and until sorted the final position of the dining table, and therefore the light, could not be determined, and all that only got finally sorted today (we eventually gave up looking for what we really wanted and took the Swedish flat-pack default, on the grounds that if we do then find something where we say "Oh yes, that's it", the SFP can be ditched without too much financial woe).Exactly same here - although, as I admitted, this has been ongoing for a number of months!
I challenge the term "electrician".I would agree should not be an option but in real life it does happen. I watched an electrician struggling after changing a consumer unit without first doing a full test and inspection.
Stop there - he's not an electrician, he's a charlatan.5:30pm so all retail outlets are closed. Has not got the test gear he should have
Builder had clearly broken the Construction (Design and Management) Regulations - solution is to find rabid solicitor and debt collectors/bailiffs and if necessary make him utterly destitute if that's what it takes to get recompense.Seems he fell out with builder over non payment of bill.
Not unless "I can see why" means "I can see why he worked on things outwith his competence with a completely callous disregard for the outcome of his egregious incompetence."What he did was wrong. But I can see why.
Good temporary in that situation?I would consider blanking the the ceiling cable off with connector blocks but WITH tape a reasonable temporary repair.
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