Gas safe

[gasbanni]

It's more than a monopoly - it's a cartel.

Yet is is quite legal to do your own gas work.

Twice as many people are killed by dodgy electrics than gas - but they've got the world brainwashed.

Gas fitters aren't even time served, they do short courses. Most gas safe bods are clueless. Hang around the plumbing forum and you won't believe how incompetent they are.

I'm helping them out.

Yes, and cannabis kills no one never has, but get your door kicked in it.

The men in white coats will be coming for Joe 90 soon he believes the rubbish he spouts out, poor delusional soul.

 

[gasbanni]

Hi
I just wondered if there were any other recognised schemes that would allow you to be legit with gas, apart fron being a gas safe registered. After all to be part P compliant as an electrician there are several choices, so why the monopoly with gas?

NO other choice, HSE decision,

Its a bit like your water supply, you can get your gas of electricity from various companies, but not your water........why not its a national grid now.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Interesting to know what Joe thinks the best solution is to the Unvented thread. Quick to throw stones. Even quicker to retreat into childish reciprocal arguments - even when he blows his own arguments out of the bath water.

Funnily enough most of the people in the front end of Gas Safe were parachuted in from CORGI.

Nice to see the regular fruit loops and slum landlords congregating somewhere though.

Give the internet watchdogs somewhere to concentrate.

 

[FiremanT]

all my invoices have LATWTTB along the bottom and no one ever asks why.

I think you wouldfind the banks are having a bigger one

 

[gasbanni]

all my invoices have LATWTTB along the bottom and no one ever asks why.

I think you wouldfind the banks are having a bigger one

true !

 

[sooey]

Take no notice of joe. He's just got the right hump because he can't get in the club.

 

[danechip]

carry on with your encouragement Joe.

hopefully some DIY weekend warrior within 200m of your house will do summat stupid and do us all a favour and wipe you out

getting a dodgy DIY spark to take you out would take some really good luck. more chance of winning the lottery

Were there any need for that? What a horrible little man you are

 

[captaincaveman1]

You must pop over to the combustion chamber for a chat Joe ....oh yes sorry about that you carn't

 

[chapeau]

So what specific kit do you need to be a gasman? As in additional to being a plumber (one of the skilled ones who can use copper that is).

Manometer ?
Sommat to sniff the stuff that comes out of the flue? (useful if you have the real flu )
Leak detection spray?

Anything else?

 

[captaincaveman1]

So what specific kit do you need to be a gasman? As in additional to being a plumber (one of the skilled ones who can use copper that is).

Manometer ?
Sommat to sniff the stuff that comes out of the flue? (useful if you have the real flu )
Leak detection spray?

Anything else?

yes knowledge and exspertise

 

[mcmoby69]

Were there any need for that? What a horrible little man you are

my english isnt perfect (note the lack of capitals and apostrophes)

but the question should have been 'WAS there any need for that?'

a quick hunt around the forum looking for Joe 90's posts will show you that actually there was

as for being little, never been called that before, I'm 16st.

 

[fatplumber]

Funny but I've been a plumber for forty years. Into my third CORGI/ GasSafe number but I still find out things, sometimes critical things every time I reassess.

ACS is just a course, it doesn't make you safe but gives you the amunition to be safe. We still have to practice what we learn and learn from our practice.

GasSafe registration is an assurance to the client, his neighbours and anyone else who happens to be passing that we have at least been told and assessed as to what is safe and unsafe. It is also a means of monitoring our safe practice. We all fall into "quick" habits and knowing that our work may be randomly scrutinised is good for everyone.

Every driver is highly skilled, above average and perfectly safe. Just ask them while they are being cut out of their car.

Every DIYer is intelligent, can read the manual and would never do anything to jeopardise anyone's safety. Well I have cleaned up after road accidents and gas incidents and, like the speed camera at the end of my road, I think that registration makes me think twice about everything I do.

 

[chapeau]

I cannot see the problem meself.

It's got to be a good thing for gasmen to be aware of the risks of working with gas, the standards required of them, and the practical skills to get the job done. Surely that means a body that examines and certifies them.

The law also allows you to 'DIY' your own gas if you are 'competent'. Now I cannot be arsed to buy the test kit and read the books to do it properly, easier for me to pay a man £200 a day to do the job properly and then no need to worry about it.

But a lot of DIYers are more than capable to read the books and get the kit and do a very good job indeed. Some DIYers are complete bodgers, as are some gassafe tradesmen. But some DIYers take more time to get it right because it's their house and they look at a 20 year horizon rather than the tradesman who wants to move onto the next job.

A handy DIYer is more than competent to do his own gas but he really needs the test kit too. The idea that you need to be a member of gassafe to be competent is a false one, though one often peddled. Competence is measured in many ways....

The hard part of all this is finding a gasman who is busy enough to charge you a fair daily rate. The ones who aren't busy because they cannot get the work are prone to rip you off as they only do one day work a week and they want you to pay for the other four. Or the ones who are quite happy to only work one day a week and take four days off, so they just have to find a mug a week who will pay for that lifestyle.

And that's nothing to do with the way they are regulated and certified.

 

[peterperfection]

So what specific kit do you need to be a gasman? As in additional to being a plumber (one of the skilled ones who can use copper that is).

Manometer ?
Sommat to sniff the stuff that comes out of the flue? (useful if you have the real flu )
Leak detection spray?

Anything else?

yes knowledge and exspertise

Dont even have to be able to spell.

I'd love to see some of the 'certs' they fill in.

 

[Dan Robinson]

That's rich:

Not abusive at all from now on. I've tired of argueing the toss with those who wont admit their faults.