Religion? how many decades has it got?

And why should we care whether Einstein believed in God anyway? He doesn't tell me what to think. He provides mathematical equations which attempt to explain how a part of the universe works.

Mathematical Equations.

I.e. evidence. Proof even if it's pure maths.

He isn't a religious scholar (and they cannot tell me what to think either, even though they do try rather hard).

We all have to make our own minds up with the evidence presented. Those who believe in god because somebody else believes in god are simply fruitcake sheep.
 
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Just keep putting yer cash in the collection tray Noseall.
 
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Probably bit of both.

Some people are sheep and don't have enquiring minds. They hear a famous name so automatically think they must know what they are talking about. Used extensively in advertising so must work
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In a lot of ways it's understandable as you need to be trained to think in a certain way and most people go out and start earning a living before their formal education reaches that stage.
 
TBH, science is doing nothing other than trying to work out how God created this universe and what makes it tick, i.e reverse engineering it, and yet they are far far from it, there are many things which will be beyond the scope of even the greatest scientist, like uniform theory is still inconclusive and they can't find the answer to this despite their access to super computers now, so anyone calling those who believe in God as fruitcakes are themselves the biggest fruitcakes denying themselves the truth.

Non-believers are living in denial of the truth, having been brainwashed by blinkered modern scientist with half inconclusive theories some of which are unproven, and just based on strongest probability or opinions of half a dozen scientist, yet cannot may never be provable.

So you live in denial, we the believers know that it would just not be possible to prove God's existence, apart from seeing his might at work, and leaving behind all the trial of evidence, which is all we need to believe in him, we are not expecting to meet God eye to eye.

Only a few chosen by him would be lucky enough to be able to see go anywhere near him, most of us would just not even qualify for this privilege, its like many of us want to meet the Queen in person, and shake hands with her, and speak to her, but we know that most of us are not going to be able to reach that status where you might be lucky to meet her. You have to be a chosen one and a privileged one.

In God I shall always believe, no matter what the science says, much of science is a loads of thought up ******, as they are finding it harder and harder as they get more near to finding the existence of God, so far they may have only uncovered some part of this creation, there is a lot more to do, but their chosen route or methods will not work, they are not the tools to detect the existence of God, spirituality is the only route to see God.
 
Its the Ism's that's the problem,folk's just love an Ism

It's interesting. Take wikipedia for example.

Some people look at it and think 'Wow, Einstein has a wiki page, I've heard of him, so what he says must be true'

I look at the wiki and say 'Einstein has a wiki page, let's look at the references at the bottom, and see what they say about what he says'.

Even the most esteemed members of my trade are only as authoritative as the references they cite and the data they present.

Show me the data! That essentially means I am not a sheep
 
It really is a shame, that scientists cannot find God, I wish they could, as it would simplify our prayers a lot! we would know what pleases him most! and we would find a short cut to see him, without having to go through usual rituals, animal sacrificing, bending down, and what not, to qualify for his merit, its like if someone was so desperate to see the Queen, and he knew that he has not done any public service to merit her invitation, and he would not be invited to her palace, but if he was so adamant on seeing the queen, then there is a short cut way, but will it be worth it , nope, because you will be arrested when you tried to jump her palace walls, and put behind bars for a long time! and her security guards would have bundled you straight to the jail! By the time you come back you would have forgotten if you ever saw the queeen! :LOL:

Same with God, if you managed to figure out where God is using an illegal route, (Scientific route) you may not live to tell the rest of the world! :LOL:
 
Or, more correctly -

If there is a god then she has a lot of explaining to do.

And Nope she hasn't got a lot of explaining to do, you have to, if you drifted from the rules, and you pay for the consequences, her rules were established from the begining.

She might intervene when all else has failed, when man (or for that matter woman) has lost control of her creation.

e.g. If you jump off a high cliff, you may break your legs and bleed to death,
if you drove very fast around a sharp turn, you will go flying, she told you not to drive fast, even your mother would have told you that!

As for natural disasters, again its your fault for making your houses over a land that is unstable, and as for tsunami that struck Indian ocean and japan, it is probably created by scientist exploding underground nuclear bombs, shaking earths's plates part, and now scientists want to store carbon dioxide in rocks under pressure! and there is lot more nonsense going on in the ground to make this planet unsafe, we are creating this global warming, not her!

Science and technology is destroying this planet, if we lived simple lives, we wouldn't need hundred's of gadgets and billions of kilowatts of power that we need now according to our new modern scientific way of life, mining deep underground, hurting our planet, causing sudden holes in the ground when we are least expecting it, cars churning out millions of tons of Co2, factories, refineries, power stations.

we know exactly what path we are treading on, path to total destruction, the wars breaking out there under the pretense of religion are in fact due to due precious resources, like oil and minerals.

We all know the real truth, but we strongly deny ourselves, our consciousnesses have been brainwashed by modern Governments and scientist alike. An elite group of people want to control the whole earth by themselves. Those who don't cooperate with them are wiped out!


We are so used to our modern, immoral living standards, I doubt if any of us will be happy to go back to the old days of non-stressful life.
 
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if you drove very fast around a sharp turn, you will go flying, she told you not to drive fast, even your mother would have told you that!.

What if it is someone else driving recklessly and killing an innocent bystander?

etc etc

There are the old three statements that the religious struggle to reconcile without somersaulting semantics

1- God is good

2- God is all powerful

3 Bad things happen

I like Randy Newman's God Song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEKuGcmW70I
 
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