The teapot is in orbit. No gravity, no orbit.The problem with Alien Abduction and Russell's Teapot is that it's not falsifiable, not yet, anyway.
There's a place where the sun's gravity cancels out the earth's gravity and so that is likely where the teapot is!
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Russel's Tea pot is a very poor analogy, used to primarily disown God, clearly how can one demonstrate the existence of God or no God using a silly thing like an imaginary tea pot orbiting between earth and whatever?
The idea was that believers would believe in this fantom tea pot, only those silly believers would believe in it without the proof of any tea being
poured out of it!
If there really was a Tea pot orbiting the earth, I might have believed only if it rained with tea, or it filled my empty cup with tea each time it passed overhead!
With God, majority of us can see he exists, because unlike the tea pot cannot give us any tea, but we can see that God has given us everything that is around us, beneath us, over us, he gave us everything we can see, touch, and see, and taste, and much much more that we can't even see. So the proof of God's existence is beyond any doubt.
No way in a million years I would believe a tea pot orbiting between earth or sun or mars or whatever, unless someone takes to the trouble of sending one up there just to stir some more ****e. only the likes of Bertrand Russel an atheist would want to assert his philosophy on others which he has no right to if he chooses to not believe in a God, his mission was to convince believers that they were disillusioned but really it was Bertrand Russel who was badly confused according to my observation. Being a philosopher, he thinks over 5 billion people are disillusioned!
The idea was that believers would believe in this fantom tea pot, only those silly believers would believe in it without the proof of any tea being
poured out of it!
If there really was a Tea pot orbiting the earth, I might have believed only if it rained with tea, or it filled my empty cup with tea each time it passed overhead!
With God, majority of us can see he exists, because unlike the tea pot cannot give us any tea, but we can see that God has given us everything that is around us, beneath us, over us, he gave us everything we can see, touch, and see, and taste, and much much more that we can't even see. So the proof of God's existence is beyond any doubt.
No way in a million years I would believe a tea pot orbiting between earth or sun or mars or whatever, unless someone takes to the trouble of sending one up there just to stir some more ****e. only the likes of Bertrand Russel an atheist would want to assert his philosophy on others which he has no right to if he chooses to not believe in a God, his mission was to convince believers that they were disillusioned but really it was Bertrand Russel who was badly confused according to my observation. Being a philosopher, he thinks over 5 billion people are disillusioned!
Sorry mate, there are so many threads now about the same thing, i.e UFOs, aliens, and God and what not, now we have Bertrand's Tea pot! and I haven't seen a single drop of tea rain down on me yet! So I have just falsified that Russell's teapot idea even if assuming we can't see it, we should have had by now some drops of tea!
Or perhaps an eclipse of Bertrand's Tea pot!
Whereas, proof of God's existence is all around us, the whole universe is his product, and within it we are, only the very blinkered can't see that
Or perhaps an eclipse of Bertrand's Tea pot!
Whereas, proof of God's existence is all around us, the whole universe is his product, and within it we are, only the very blinkered can't see that
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Sorry mate, there are so many threads now about the same thing, i.e UFOs, aliens, and God and what not, now we have Bertrand's Tea pot! and I haven't seen a single drop of tea rain down on me yet! So I have just falsified that Russell's teapot idea even if assuming we can't see it, we should have had by now some drops of tea!
Or perhaps an eclipse of Bertrand's Tea pot!
Whereas, proof of God's existence is all around us, the whole universe is his product, and within it we are, only the very blinkered can't see that
You, my friend, do NOT understand what the word proof means !!
I will tell you what proof mean, you can't get an egg without a hen, so if you tell me that you managed to get an egg without any evidence of a hen, you know you are denying yourself the truth. That is what proof means.
Didn't the universe come from somewhere? and I am not talking about the process how it began. Same as I don't need to explain how the egg was formed.
Even the tings that man has made, designed or invented is said to be created by God, through the process that used human input to achieve the results. Same as we use tools to achieve many tasks, but ultimately, it is God that is in control. He provides you with the intellect and motivation, that is what he wanted you to have done, but occasionally we make machines that go wrong, so in the same way many men go astray and commit wrong unlawful things. That is not what God planned.
Didn't the universe come from somewhere? and I am not talking about the process how it began. Same as I don't need to explain how the egg was formed.
Even the tings that man has made, designed or invented is said to be created by God, through the process that used human input to achieve the results. Same as we use tools to achieve many tasks, but ultimately, it is God that is in control. He provides you with the intellect and motivation, that is what he wanted you to have done, but occasionally we make machines that go wrong, so in the same way many men go astray and commit wrong unlawful things. That is not what God planned.
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You're saying that because you think you can't get an egg without a hen, then there must be a god? and that is your proof of a god? seriously?
Are you drunk mike from London?
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Mike, you don't know where the universe came from, nor does any creature on this planet.... yet !
But that isn't proof of a god, that is a good indicator of how religion was spawned... out of a lack of understanding, and much fear !!
You are missing the point, it does not matter where the creatures or the universe came from , or through what process it was achieved, ultimately there is one master designer. He knew how it will all begin, what next will happen, however long it may take, everything that is, is according to his plans, but sometimes things do go wrong, they tend to go against our designed plan, God is no different, he made man hoping all men would turn out to be as he expected them to, but some strayed, some killed their own brothers ans sisters, that wasn't God's plan I am sure, if our car looses a wheel and go out of control, we did not expect it to do that, but occasionally bad things do happen.
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Mike, seriously, there's a little blue pebble at the botttom of my garden that created everything... and I have a book (well I haven't printed it out yet!) where the Pebble says "god is not real".... so consider your god 'trumped'!!
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It seems Mike's scared of the Pebble... his 'other' god ain't up to taking it on !!! typical !
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Anyone else with a "god" want to take on..' the Pebble'? any Zeusians? or Thorians? or muslims want to tell their god to smite me and my Pebble to the floor?
Bring it on !!!
Bring it on !!!
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ok, silly me... it's gone 11pm... gods seem to work human hours (is that GMT?) at least with Mike from London... so his 'all creating being' needs his (it's?) sleep... me and The Pebble will recommence our challenge to Mike's all powerful god when the Earth has spun around half way... god might be ready for a challenge after a good nights sleep?
(beware the blue pebble at the bottom of my garden... that's always ready to challenge any god !!)
(beware the blue pebble at the bottom of my garden... that's always ready to challenge any god !!)
He is quite right! The universe did come from somewhere AS did god, so god made the universe and err we have a problem here Mike, where who made god?
I'll assist you here, which is more complex? The universe or god? I would guess it would be similar to ask; which is more complex? A grain of sand or Joe90, ok it's a close run thing
but Joe IS more complex, so I would imagine your god to be far more complex than any old universe, so if things happened by chance or chaos and materialized out of nowhere then the universe would be odds on favorite.I hope You understand what I'm getting at here.
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He is quite right! The universe did come from somewhere AS did god, so god made the universe and err we have a problem here Mike, where who made god?
I'll assist you here, which is more complex? The universe or god? I would guess it would be similar to ask; which is more complex? A grain of sand or Joe90, ok it's a close run thing
I hope You understand what I'm getting at here.
Pred, stand aside, the Blue Pebble will deal with this...!
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