Any Vapers On Board ?

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what you need to remember is your brain cares not where it get it's fix from an if you could only get nicotine by sucking a turd your brain would quickly grow to like it... 'tis true. :wink:

As small as my brain may be, it knows full well the difference.

I'm not a hypocrite, you asked for opinions. My little brain told me they were crap, buy no more.

They're just a fad for camp trendy people.
 
what you need to remember is your brain cares not where it get it's fix from an if you could only get nicotine by sucking a turd your brain would quickly grow to like it... 'tis true. :wink:

As small as my brain may be, it knows full well the difference.

I'm not a hypocrite, you asked for opinions. My little brain told me they were crap, buy no more.

They're just a fad for camp trendy people.

I'm not camp and definitely not trendy... millions of people have cottoned on, it's not a fad... you had a bad experience because you tried something cheap and nasty expecting it to be just like a fag; I'm not trying to convert anyone, I was the most hardcore smoker you could ever meet but once the penny dropped it was life changing!

My missis couldn't get on with 'em, hated 'em loved her baccy, well... she went down with a bad chest and was really ill so I nicked her baccy and left her an ecig knowing she was too ill to go to the shop, it took two days for her to get it and now she's been toking one for over a year!
 
I'm not camp and definitely not trendy... millions of people have cottoned on, it's not a fad... you had a bad experience because you tried something cheap and nasty expecting it to be just like a fag;

Millions of people have cottoned on??? C'mon that's a fad. A bit Like getting a million hits on youtube.

It wasn't a cheap and nasty one, but crap all the same.

Did I expect it to give me what a fag does??....YES

Did it deliver???........ Did it f*ck. :wink:
 
I'm not camp and definitely not trendy... millions of people have cottoned on, it's not a fad... you had a bad experience because you tried something cheap and nasty expecting it to be just like a fag;

Millions of people have cottoned on??? C'mon that's a fad. A bit Like getting a million hits on youtube.

It wasn't a cheap and nasty one, but crap all the same.

Did I expect it to give me what a fag does??....YES

Did it deliver???........ Did it f*ck. :wink:

Yep, millions, no fad, 18 months for me and god knows how much cash I've saved... If you bought something that looked like a fag, no matter how much it cost, it was a piece of crap because the technology isn't quite there yet, maybe down the road but not yet. :wink:
 
Yep, millions, no fad, 18 months for me and god knows how much cash I've saved... If you bought something that looked like a fag, no matter how much it cost, it was a piece of crap because the technology isn't quite there yet, maybe down the road but not yet. :wink:

Not having a pop at all grooby. Good on ya.

Just my opinion that's all.
 
Yep, millions, no fad, 18 months for me and god knows how much cash I've saved... If you bought something that looked like a fag, no matter how much it cost, it was a piece of crap because the technology isn't quite there yet, maybe down the road but not yet. :wink:

Not having a pop at all grooby. Good on ya.

Just my opinion that's all.

Hey, no worries, when you find something good you want to spread the word. :D
 
How about you f*ckstick???? :lol: :lol: :lol:
I'm not the one stereotyping E-cig smokers, you are.

I'm just interested in what defines a typical 'proper' fag smoker, is all.

Let me guess, leg tatoos, pierced ear, 'ard dog and a 4 door saloon with only three matching doors. Correct?
 
My mother-in-law started to use them a year or two ago.

She's now successfully on e-cigs AND fags!
 
I remember some years ago, on a programme about smoking, a doctor who specialised in addictions said that nicotine is a great drug, but cigarettes are a lousy delivery system. He seemed to think that nicotine can have beneficial effects, especially on concentration and cognitive functions.

So, I suppose if people can get over the different experience of vaping, they can get what they need without the risks of tobacco. Like many things, it may take a while to get used to getting the nicotine they crave in that way. If any smokers on here think back to their first cigs, they made us cough and seemed unpleasant. Unfortunately, we percivered with it until it became enjoyable.

I'll give vaping a go (in private), because it's the smoking that kills, not the nicotine.
 
I remember some years ago, on a programme about smoking, a doctor who specialised in addictions said that nicotine is a great drug, but cigarettes are a lousy delivery system. He seemed to think that nicotine can have beneficial effects, especially on concentration and cognitive functions.

So, I suppose if people can get over the different experience of vaping, they can get what they need without the risks of tobacco. Like many things, it may take a while to get used to getting the nicotine they crave in that way. If any smokers on here think back to their first cigs, they made us cough and seemed unpleasant. Unfortunately, we percivered with it until it became enjoyable.

I'll give vaping a go (in private), because it's the smoking that kills, not the nicotine.

Good man, just make sure you start with a decent bit of kit otherwise you'll inevitably end up disappointed but believe me your body will very quickly associate the vape with the nicotine fix and that's it done... it's seriously cheaper, appears to be much healthier and you'll very quickly realise that real fags stink; I have the odd fag when I've had a few and the taste is blimmin' disgusting and it amazes me that I could ever think anything else!

Do some research before you buy, £20 will set you up well and make sure you start with a high enough nicotine level, also, I found a non-tobacco flavour helped because it's not a fag and it never will be so trying to pretend it is is counter productive, I enjoy menthol personally.

There is hoards of info online, best of luck and remember it will take a day or two to work for you but it will work.

If you want any advice, just ask. :)
 
I remember some years ago, on a programme about smoking, a doctor who specialised in addictions said that nicotine is a great drug, but cigarettes are a lousy delivery system. He seemed to think that nicotine can have beneficial effects, especially on concentration and cognitive functions.

So, I suppose if people can get over the different experience of vaping, they can get what they need without the risks of tobacco. Like many things, it may take a while to get used to getting the nicotine they crave in that way. If any smokers on here think back to their first cigs, they made us cough and seemed unpleasant. Unfortunately, we percivered with it until it became enjoyable.

I'll give vaping a go (in private), because it's the smoking that kills, not the nicotine.

Good man, just make sure you start with a decent bit of kit otherwise you'll inevitably end up disappointed but believe me your body will very quickly associate the vape with the nicotine fix and that's it done... it's seriously cheaper, appears to be much healthier and you'll very quickly realise that real fags stink; I have the odd fag when I've had a few and the taste is blimmin' disgusting and it amazes me that I could ever think anything else!

Do some research before you buy, £20 will set you up well and make sure you start with a high enough nicotine level, also, I found a non-tobacco flavour helped because it's not a fag and it never will be so trying to pretend it is is counter productive, I enjoy menthol personally.

There is hoards of info online, best of luck and remember it will take a day or two to work for you but it will work.

If you want any advice, just ask. :)

Many thanks for the info. Any recommendations for products?
 
I remember some years ago, on a programme about smoking, a doctor who specialised in addictions said that nicotine is a great drug, but cigarettes are a lousy delivery system. He seemed to think that nicotine can have beneficial effects, especially on concentration and cognitive functions.

So, I suppose if people can get over the different experience of vaping, they can get what they need without the risks of tobacco. Like many things, it may take a while to get used to getting the nicotine they crave in that way. If any smokers on here think back to their first cigs, they made us cough and seemed unpleasant. Unfortunately, we percivered with it until it became enjoyable.

I'll give vaping a go (in private), because it's the smoking that kills, not the nicotine.

Good man, just make sure you start with a decent bit of kit otherwise you'll inevitably end up disappointed but believe me your body will very quickly associate the vape with the nicotine fix and that's it done... it's seriously cheaper, appears to be much healthier and you'll very quickly realise that real fags stink; I have the odd fag when I've had a few and the taste is blimmin' disgusting and it amazes me that I could ever think anything else!

Do some research before you buy, £20 will set you up well and make sure you start with a high enough nicotine level, also, I found a non-tobacco flavour helped because it's not a fag and it never will be so trying to pretend it is is counter productive, I enjoy menthol personally.

There is hoards of info online, best of luck and remember it will take a day or two to work for you but it will work.

If you want any advice, just ask. :)

Many thanks for the info. Any recommendations for products?

This is a good starting point - http://www.ecigwizard.com/electronic-cigarette-starter-kits/starter-bundle/standardbundle.html - These are the people I use (not the cheapest but reliable, excellent customer service and decent products), this starter kit will give you all you need to get going though I prefer these tops - http://www.ecigwizard.com/accessories/cartomisers/evod-clearomiser/evod-clearomiser.html - if you do order there is always a discount code, I used 'esavuke' when I placed an order a couple of days ago.

The kit linked is pretty decent, it will give you all you need to get going but you will probably chop and change juice and atomiser (the bit that makes the vapour) if you get into it, there's tons of variations and different bits of kit out there... it can seem a bit daunting to start with but it's sweet once you get going. :)
 
Nicotine has been a likened to caffeine ie it's a stimulant, or a feel-good drug. As Whitespirit66 says, there are plenty studies concluding that nicotine is pretty harmless, and some that say it's beneficial, but the traditional tobacco burning delivery method is bad. When people see you vaping they automatically ask when you intend quitting vaping, as if nicotine is the black plague. I usually answer by asking when they're giving up drinking coffee or something.

I've read a few studies by respected people/organisations and some are breathtaking. For example I think it was ASH (Action on Smoking & Health) who did a survey on the effects of passive smoking years ago and their conclusions were that it was virtually harmless. They have "buried" that survey and now refuse to answer any questions on it. Or how about the fact that although Native American Indians have one of the highest rates of smoking, they also have one of the lowest rates of lung cancer. Similarly, Chinese women have one of the lowest rates of smokers, but one of the highest lung cancer rates. Maybe smoking's not as bad as we're led to believe, I'm sure we all know an old uncle so-and-so who's smoked since he was 12 and, although he has a bad cough, he's still going at 85.

The govt "we'll get you off the fags" brigade (I forget their name at the mo) recently proudly announced that they got 145,000 UK people off cigs in 10 years. That's 14,500/year. Their figures are based on "refraining from tobacco for two weeks", so they include the 90-odd percent of people who try the crap patches/gum etc and go back on the cigs after a couple of weeks. And why are nicotine patches so expensive anyway? They're an elastoplast and a ha'penny worth of nicotine. Anyway, the service cost us, the taxpayers, a fortune on prescriptions and advertising, not to mention the cost of having the department to begin with. Vaping, on the other hand, has gotten an estimated 1.3 million UK people off cigs from a standing start around 2005/2006, with zero expense to the taxpayer, no help from the govt, and no advertising. That's around 10 times better than the govt brigade, who can argue with that?

Well, the govt can, cos they're losing a fortune on revenue. So, realistically, the govt don't want you to stop smoking. They pretend they do, but they don't. They want to take your £8/packet thank you very much. They also want you to die early, cos that saves them a few bob too. So, keep smoking, then get some nasty disease, then pay their Big Pharma buddies through the nose for some treatment to "manage" your nasty disease, then die early, and they get a shedload of cash at every turn.

So how do they deal with vaping? They keep giving their Big Pharma (BP) buddies cash to go and do a survey which says vaping's bad, which would allow them to ban it. The problem is nobody can find anything wrong with it, even their BP buddies. So, next best thing...regulate it. Make out that it's deadly dangerous for anyone to vape this "unregulated" stuff, even tho as far as I could find out, there's not been a single death blamed on vaping. But if they can get the general public on their side, they can recoup some of the lost baccy revenue by way of passing it to their BP buddies. They'll make you buy a small bottle of too-low strength nicotine e-liquid from the chemist, complete with a wee safety leaflet telling you not to let your dog drink it. Oh, and it'll be expensive too, marginally cheaper than fags, but not much. And a handy by-product of this is that it'll be so low nicotine content that it'll not work as well as it does at the moment, so you'll buy fags again.

They're trying hard with things like "kids are starting to vape cos they can get custard flavour", but failing to mention that the kids who are vaping would be smoking anyway, so maybe they're starting a healthier addiction than they would have, had vaping not been available. The govt will get away with it too. Their original plan of "vaping should be a medicine" got knocked back cos a medicine is something which manages a condition, and vapers don't have a condition any more than coffee drinkers do. So it's back to the think-tank, but a bit more mis-information here and there to the press and they'll get Joe Public on their side, and therefore have the carte-blanche they need to get their cash back.
 
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