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IRA leader Martin McGuiness died last night , apparently from a rare Heart condition which is surprising as a lot of people were of the opinion that he didn't actually possess one.
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May he never rest in peace.
I hope he had time to think about what he had done to others.
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Doggit
It is said he went into politics when he realised the error his ways, (earlier methods) but in denying what he'd done, that suggest cowardice, or untrue redemption.
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Brigade77
Heaven or Hell?
I believe in neither. But, I'd like to think his spirit was suspended in his purgatory.
I believe in neither. But, I'd like to think his spirit was suspended in his purgatory.
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Doggit
Hell is the place you are currently in, and heaven (although not in the biblical sense) is where you return to as just a ball of light. He is currently in an inbetween state whilst he transitions to a higher realm, where he will review his life, and judge what he has done. Aftet that, he will decide what he needs to do next time to learn from what he did in this life.
There is a kind of purgatory, but I'm afraid it's for those who are far worse than he is.
There is a kind of purgatory, but I'm afraid it's for those who are far worse than he is.
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He will probably meet up with Nelson Mandela to discus tactics, i.e tar & feathering or necklacing, which is more satisfying.
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His conversion to peace was a tactical move rather a moral one.
He never once showed any remorse for his crimes or apologised to his victims.
Sir Norman Tebbit hit the nail on the head when he said that McGuiness and Co were cowards who only became "peacemakers" because the IRA was thoroughly infiltrated by the security forces.
He never once showed any remorse for his crimes or apologised to his victims.
Sir Norman Tebbit hit the nail on the head when he said that McGuiness and Co were cowards who only became "peacemakers" because the IRA was thoroughly infiltrated by the security forces.
He wanted independance for Northern Ireland and he achieved this through violence. Surely no worse than what her majesty inflicted on the peoples of Northern Ireland in a bid to make them submit. People die in conflict, this is life. You don't get anywhere waving banners and protesting the terms of your own enslavement, you take it into your own hands. I don't have a particular horse in the race but I identify with a man who doesn't want to be enslaved. You could say Hitler was trying to achieve the same thing, to escape from the IMF and the privately owned banking cartels, he failed but he went down trying. Look at Germany now and the rest of Europe.
Personally I think there are two sides to any conflict in 99.999999% of cases.
And before anyone jumps on me for defending the man, don't. I won't be.
Personally I think there are two sides to any conflict in 99.999999% of cases.
And before anyone jumps on me for defending the man, don't. I won't be.
WTF?
No worse that the British national majority in Northern Ireland being defended from forced submission to Southern Ireland you mean
Yeah you see you have an emotional stake in the discussion. I don't.
If he truly believed in what he was doing, were they crimes or victims in his eyes?
If not, he would logically believe he had nothing to apologise or show remorse for?
You see things then, because I dont have. I have a common sense stake.
And trying to validate your comments by infering emotional detachment (hence rational thought) does not wash either.
Well on that basis if you feel you speak for everyone in southern Ireland, I don't think you do. Of course I don't either. It's just opinion either way.
