Has Corbyn ever had a real job ?

[JohnD]

In 2015, about 26% were career politicians that had never had a job in the real world.

On checking his source, I see dog has falsified the quote in order to give a false impression.

The percentage he quotes is NOT the answer to Doug's question.

Careless or deceitful?

 

[Doggit]

Well done John, you went looking; now show me where I'm supposed to have falsified the quote please.

This could actually turn into an intelligent debate if you stopped making nasty assertations.

 

[JohnD]

Here is Doug's question.

It would be interesting to know how many sitting MPs of all parties are 'career politicians'.

 

[JohnD]

Your source says " we now know the answers about the potential class of 2015. Around one in four (26 per cent) of new candidates contesting the 2015 general election are political professionals currently working as advisers, researchers, party officials, trade unionists or lobbyists."

So not "sitting MPs"

It does not even say what "real jobs" they may have done before taking up an interest in politics

Being an article in the Daily Torygraph, it slips in a smear that a person who is a Trade Unionist does not have a "real job."

So your reply is false.

You didn't even read the article yourself, did you.

You took an article from a right-wing source that had been written with deliberate bias, and then you even misrepresented what it said.

Which fake news propaganda website did you copy it from?

 

[Doggit]

Now that's an interesting point John, so the implications are that the survey was done before the election took place, and not all of them would have gained seats. Fair point then, I didn't research enough, and no I didn't read the article completely, I found the points to continue the discussion that's all.

But that article alone has shown that there is an increasing number of MPs (actual and potential) that now come from political backgrounds rather than from the real worl. the real danger, is when we get people in power (Milliband and Cameron and Corbyn) spring to mind, where they have no experience of what a real job is.

There are some trade unionists that do it as a part time job, and others that have it as a full time job, but I'd have difficulty calling a trade unionist as having a "proper" job. But I don't think you can call my reply false just because it isn't to your liking.

I wonder if you'd accept the figures from the left leaning Independant instead.

 

[Tigercubrider]

• Sold in May 2017
• kitchen/breakfast room & utility
• master bedroom with ensuite bathroom
• 4 further bedrooms
• family bathroom

• garaging, coal store.
• In all approximately 1.02 acres
• EPC Rating = E

these are straight off the estate agent's website ( as are the photos used by the papers)
maybe the Torygraph journalists sleep in the bath?

https://search.savills.com/property-detail/gbwmrstes160072#/r/detail/GBWMRSTES160072

They had 4 kids so a 5 bedroom house isn't exactly OTT.


My Tiger cub motorbike cost me £75 way back, and after a lot of work is probably worth a couple of grand now - and
that only cost three!

as said, my Dad worked at a trade organisation, first the Motor Trade, then Insurance. Corbin probably did a lot of similar work. Following legislation, representing members of an org in negotiations (pay/welfare/legal implications of change). Do you suggest that someone who represents motorists (AA/RAC) and doesn't fix cars "doesn't have a proper job"?

 

[JohnD]

But I don't think you can call my reply false just because it isn't to your liking.

I can call it false because it purports to be the answer to a question, but it is not the true answer to that question.

 

[Doggit]

They had 4 kids so a 5 bedroom house isn't exactly OTT.

But when Corbyn was growing up, the kids would have shared a couple of bedrooms, so a 3 bed terraced house would be more in keeping with his supposed humble beginings. What I will say in his justification, is unlike Blair, Mandleson, and the rest of the Notting Hill set, he has kept to his simple socialist values, rather than take the Champagne Socialist route.

 

[Doggit]

I can call it false because it purports to be the answer to a question, but it is not the true answer to that question.

No, you call it false because all you want to do is push your point to the hilt, and denegrate anyone that disagrees with you. A discussion is just politely correcting anothers errors, and you have no desire to be polite, or to discuss anything.

This is your private forum, and you'll ride roughshode over anyone that disagrees with you.

 

[JohnD]

Sadly GD is a horrible place full of horrible people.

 

[Tigercubrider]

Maybe the kids did share?
in a four bedroom house, my brother and I shared (7&11) for a year or so before getting our own rooms.
It's not unheard of to have visitors.

note to self…. sell house because "apparently" I have too many bedrooms.

 

[Roger928]

Sadly GD is a horrible place full of horrible people.

Doggit isn't one of them. He politely calls you by your correct name "John". Yet you retort by calling him "Dog".
If you want to see one of the horrible people take a look in the mirror dude.

 

[Roger928]

Double post.

 

[HawkEye244]

Sadly GD is a horrible place full of horrible people.

Perhaps if you stopped posting about politics people would behave in a way that would make you think otherwise.

 

[JohnD]

You can't see the handful of people who haunt GD with political attacks, then.

Who started this thread, by the way?