Brexit deal rejected again

[Notch7]

he whole world must be peeing themselves watching britain fumbling an crumbling in such a farcical manner

ep, the UK is a total laughing stock...

Straight or bent - we are now officially a banana republic

Anti UK rants.

In the real world, the Euro is doing badly, quantative easing has had to be started again, for another 2 years because of the real risk of recession.

Meanwhile the UK has even more people in work and tax receipts in January were higher than expected.

Wheres the laughing stock

 

[Notch7]

we are now officially a banana republic

I see somebody has no idea what a banana republic is.

Let me help:

banana republic; plural noun: banana republics

1. a small state that is politically unstable as a result of the domination of its economy by a single export controlled by foreign capital

 

[motorbiking]

Brexit is dead. Leave are split, remain aren't. Remain will vote down any and all Brexit deal, Labour are set on "toppling" the government, but I can't see them winning an election. Leavers will support whatever version they think is right. Todays No deal vote will fail, the short extension will have conditions attached. The cleaner option is to cancel article 50. If we appoint MEPs I will be voting for the most anti EU MEP I can find.

 

[ellal]

Anti UK rants.

Nah, just stating the truth...

Keep on burying that head of yours in the sand if you like

Meanwhile the UK has even more people in work and tax receipts in January were higher than expected.

More people = more in work, and many of them in zero hours/minimum wage jobs
And 'moving' people from the unemployment register to 'self employed' status helps massage the figures.
As does increasing the retirement age.
(do you really swallow government propaganda so easily?)

As for tax receipts, that's the economic rush to get things done before March 29th

 

[ellal]

Brexit is dead. Leave are split, remain aren't. Remain will vote down any and all Brexit deal, Labour are set on "toppling" the government, but I can't see them winning an election. Leavers will support whatever version they think is right. Todays No deal vote will fail, the short extension will have conditions attached. The cleaner option is to cancel article 50. If we appoint MEPs I will be voting for the most anti EU MEP I can find.

Brexit isn't dead at all...

It's all shaping up either to be a 'no deal', or a slow process to another referendum, or May attempting to get her deal through again...

So back to square one...

Although the UK is to become a bargain basement dumping ground, in order not to implode in the plans for a no-deal just released...
(unilateral declaration, not reciprocal trade deals - but then quitters predicted this, didn't they?)

Linky

"The government has announced that most imports into the UK would not attract a tariff in the event of a no-deal Brexit.
Under a temporary scheme 87% of imports by value would be eligible for zero-tariff access."

And of course...

"The government also announced that it will not introduce any new checks or controls, or require customs declarations for any goods moving from across the border from Ireland to Northern Ireland in the event the UK leaves the EU without a deal.

The decision to drop all checks to avoid friction at the UK's land border with the EU will be temporary while longer term solutions are negotiated and was taken to recognise what the government described as "the unique social political and economic circumstances of Northern Ireland."

 

[Notch7]

As for tax receipts, that's the economic rush to get things done before March 29th

Bless, poor old Ellal is getting more desperate by the day.

economic rush .....you got a link old bean

heres one for ya:
The main drivers of the UK economy – services, production, manufacturing and construction – all made a positive contributions to monthly growth, after a weaker end to 2018 when every single major sector recorded declines.

Consumer spending growth helped the services sector – which accounts for about 80% of the economy – to grow by 0.3% in January

 

[Brigadier]

IMHO, a GE would be pointless, as Brexit is not a party matter, with only the Liberals presenting a united (if tiny) front. I doubt a GE would resolve anything.

Straight or bent - we are now officially a banana republic!

Not so sure about that; the people have spoken, and been listened to (democracy in action!). Which is entirely the "problem".
The politicians don't know which way to turn as, whatever they do, they know that they'll alienate about half of their electorate.


FWIW, I think that Brexit could work; the problem is though, such a momentus decision needs a totally-unified approach (from both the politicians, but most importantly, the population).

 

[ellal]

Bless, poor old Ellal is getting more desperate by the day.

economic rush .....you got a link old bean

heres one for ya:
The main drivers of the UK economy – services, production, manufacturing and construction – all made a positive contributions to monthly growth, after a weaker end to 2018 when every single major sector recorded declines.

Consumer spending growth helped the services sector – which accounts for about 80% of the economy – to grow by 0.3% in January

Bless, poor old notchy just doesn't get it...

But hey, he admitted himself he got the important decision wrong so his reading of the situation is as always well wide of the mark!

And no comment on the UK becoming the bargain basement dumping ground?

The CBI have a succinct reply...

"These are being imposed on this country with no consultation with business with no time to prepare. This is no way to run a country," she said, warning that the impact could be a "sledgehammer to our economy" as companies spend more on stockpiling."

You see that last bit gives a clue to the reason for increased tax receipts.
Along with people getting ready to 'batten down the hatches' should a no-deal happen!

 

[ellal]

Not so sure about that; the people have spoken, and been listened to (democracy in action!). Which is entirely the "problem".
The politicians don't know which way to turn as, whatever they do, they know that they'll alienate about half of their electorate.

FWIW, I think that Brexit could work; the problem is though, such a momentus decision needs a totally-unified approach (from both the politicians, but most importantly, the population).

Thus the UK is divided as never before (apart from the odd civil war), and will remain so indefinitely - and nothing can fix that whatever transpires!

But that is always how empires or countries 'punching above their weight' tend to end up...

And usually also in a blaze of false Nationalism, led one or two charismatic sociopaths!

 

[ban-all-sheds]

If we appoint MEPs I will be voting for the most anti EU MEP I can find.

MEPs should not be allowed to stand for election if their avowed aim is to destroy the institution to which they seek election.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

The main drivers of the UK economy – services, production, manufacturing and construction – all made a positive contributions to monthly growth, after a weaker end to 2018 when every single major sector recorded declines.

Consumer spending growth helped the services sector – which accounts for about 80% of the economy – to grow by 0.3% in January

And financial services to the EU, or through the UK for non-EU access to the EU will collapse in the event of a bad or no, deal.

As for production - over 50% of our food and drink exports are to the EU. Good luck with that if we don't have the same food and drink regulations. And no matter what we do about checks on the UK/EU border in NI, good luck with expecting the EU not to police its border to prevent the import of illegal goods.

 

[Bosswhite]

And financial services to the EU, or through the UK for non-EU access to the EU will collapse in the event of a bad or no, deal.

As for production - over 50% of our food and drink exports are to the EU. Good luck with that if we don't have the same food and drink regulations. And no matter what we do about checks on the UK/EU border in NI, good luck with expecting the EU not to police its border to prevent the import of illegal goods.

The Irish Border will be ideal for smuggling cheap chlorinated chicken bought from the USA into the EU .
We may not Police goods coming in from the EU, but the EU will police importing goods into ROI

 

[Ihavenojob]

It's all shaping up either to be a 'no deal'

Best possible outcome.

 

[SirGalahad]

Best possible outcome.

For a select few, definitely not you.

 

[Ihavenojob]

For a select few, definitely not you.

It's what I and the majority voted for. Why do you think it won't be any good, what insider information do you have that says it will be no good for me? Links, facts & figures detailing exactly what a no deal will mean for me. please.