Knife Crime

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There u go a classic example
You treat people with respect
Courtesy
Good manners
Atempt to engage them in meaningful intelligent conversation and this is the sort of reaction you get :eek:

Very disappointing Tbh
 
There u go a classic example
You treat people with respect
Courtesy
Good manners
Atempt to engage them in meaningful intelligent conversation and this is the sort of reaction you get :eek:

Very disappointing Tbh
And why does he keep posting this picture of him on the ski slope ?
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That's an interesting guess.

When you searched for evidence to support your guess, what did you find?
when they have been removed from society they can't commit any more crimes. throw away the key, job done. There's no shortage of people.
 
throw away the key, job done

But most of the people doing the stabbing are new to crime, unknown to the police - gangs are not stupid, they use new members to carry out stabbings, usually through threats of extreme violence on their own family if they do not cooperate.

It really is more complex than simply increasing prison sentences - this assumes there are only a few criminals and no new ones are made, and all are caught before they commit a crime ... that isn't how it works.

Our current strategy is to create an uncivil society, wait for somebody to slice and dice a rival dealer to death, then try to catch them. It isn't working - most attackers are still not known by the police and wandering the streets.

We need a new strategy. Well, a tried and tested old strategy brought back.
 
One solution would be to bring back national service.
The demograghic most vulnerable to gang culture would have been liable for national service at one time.
National service takes kids of the streets and teaches them to slice and dice foreigners rather than their neighbours at home.
What is wrong with that.
 
One solution would be to bring back national service.
The demograghic most vulnerable to gang culture would have been liable for national service at one time.
National service takes kids of the streets and teaches them to slice and dice foreigners rather than their neighbours at home.
What is wrong with that.

I don't disagree with that, and the extra troops will come in handy when Germany and France kick off again, but equally, there needs to be public spending on youth clubs and boxing clubs etc., with mentors available for troubled teenagers. I doubt it will ever happen.
 
One solution would be to bring back national service.
The demograghic most vulnerable to gang culture would have been liable for national service at one time.
National service takes kids of the streets and teaches them to slice and dice foreigners rather than their neighbours at home.
What is wrong with that.

At what age?
Kids get involved in gang culture from around 12-13 years old. By the time they are 18 they are going to already be out their dealing, and doing everything to stay off the radar of the police and military.

So the thing that is wrong with that is that it will simply take the wrong people out of society.

Next idea. come on, maybe somebody will say more youth services, better education, community policing, rehabilitation ...

One interesting point made on R4 the other week is the relationship between school exclusion and involvement in gangs - schools need to be working much closer with the police, and they need to avoid excluding children at all costs. More resources, meaning more money, needed to help these kids in the one place that they are still open to getting help - in school. Most are from broken homes (although not all) so you can't rely on parents to put them on the straight and narrow.
 
At what age?
Kids get involved in gang culture from around 12-13 years old. By the time they are 18 they are going to already be out their dealing, and doing everything to stay off the radar of the police and military.

So the thing that is wrong with that is that it will simply take the wrong people out of society.

Next idea. come on, maybe somebody will say more youth services, better education, community policing, rehabilitation ...

One interesting point made on R4 the other week is the relationship between school exclusion and involvement in gangs - schools need to be working much closer with the police, and they need to avoid excluding children at all costs. More resources, meaning more money, needed to help these kids in the one place that they are still open to getting help - in school. Most are from broken homes (although not all) so you can't rely on parents to put them on the straight and narrow.
It is true that kids below conscription age get involved in gang culture but they are enticed or coerced by older gang members who would be eligible for some sort of national service which wouldn't necessarily have to be military.
Another factor is the growth of sub cultures within mainstream stream society.
A lot of these inner City gangs are the fallout from decades of unrestricted immigration, as result you have these kids growing up in communities with values that mainstream society would regard as alien.
The government should recognise that multi culturalism has failed and should direct more effort at encouraging these communties to assimilate.
 
That's an interesting guess.

When you searched for evidence to support your guess, what did you find?

so, you have no evidence.

you might as well claim that painting pavements mauve would cut crime.

Just a pointless idea with nothing to support it.
 
You are just as bad as Himmy, sneering at people who come up with suggestions, yet have absolutely NOTHING to add to any debate.

Nothing wrong with asking people who have crazy ideas, to justify them.

Remind me, what was your response to the suggestion of making the illegal drugs trade unprofitable, by selling quality-controlled drugs through licenced premises, with legal controls and taxes?

just like we do with alcohol?
 
when they have been removed from society they can't commit any more crimes. throw away the key, job done. There's no shortage of people.
America tried that.

Prison population increased by 2 million in 30 years.
Crime rate didnt drop.
 
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