Black Lives Matter Protests Today in UK

[Mottie]

Others are going to die because of entrenched, systemic and institutionalised racism.

Well, protest when there isn’t a ****ing pandemic and it’s safe to do so then!

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Well, protest when there isn’t a ****ing pandemic and it’s safe to do so then!

Wouldn't your comments be better aimed at the racists?
When anger and concern builds in a society, the 'mob' have little concern for everyday situations.
If there was no racism, there would be no need for protests.

The protesters are aware of the risks, not only from illness, but also from injury, etc.
They are seeking less inequality, more justice in society.
They believe their struggle for equality is worth the risk.
Racism costs lives also.
Racism is a scourge that has been around a lot longer than Covid 19, but few have been that concerned about racism, and its cost in human lives.

 

[Notch7]

Well, protest when there isn’t a ****ing pandemic and it’s safe to do so then!

because the moment is now.

the protestors have momentum on their side, I dont agree with them forgetting about CV19, but they see it a their moment in which they could change history.

protesting in say June 2022 -pointless.

 

[Bodd]

Precisely, festive.
If there was no racism, or even if it wasn't so institutionalised, so endemic, so systemic, so entrenched in society, there would be no need for protests.

And you see this do you?

Let's work together to eradicate it,

You want me to protest for a armed criminal thousand of miles away.

Yet I see no black or brown faces coming out for all these young girls let down by the Police, local authorities and social workers in
Rotherham, Oxford or Oldham..... our own country.

Yet I see lots of white people coming out for a convicted armed robber.

Your right
We should work together. Its the only way racism can be Defeated.

But it works both ways Bobby...... ...

 

[Notch7]

Woudn't your comments be better aimed at the racists?

Mottie makes a very valid point -some of those protesters will die, some will take CV19 back to loved ones who will die.

its wrong to say 'direct it at the racists'

 

[Bodd]

Mottie makes a very valid point -

And so does Bobby... But racism can only be Defeated together, not by some looking through one way glass...

 

[Notch7]

Yet I see no black or brown faces coming out for all these young girls let down by the Police, local authorities and social workers in
Rotherham, Oxford or Oldham..... our own country.

Yet I see lots of white people coming out for a convicted armed robber.

lots of people including those from ethnic minorities have been speaking up against those gangs, you are being unfair.

coming out for a convicted armed robber.

that doesnt justify being killed by a policeman, nor does it reduce the worth of those protesting.

 

[sodthisforfun]

2 people in the arts, 30 odd years apart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?featu...5iE-P6u81aL7y2baSdg3oWhWv7egq4Tak&app=desktop

And Banksy
https://news.sky.com/story/george-f...twork-inspired-by-black-lives-matter-12001699

It really is time things changed. We are supposed to be intelligent human beings...

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

And you see this do you?




You want me to protest for a armed criminal thousand of miles away.

Yet I see no black or brown faces coming out for all these young girls let down by the Police, local authorities and social workers in
Rotherham, Oxford or Oldham..... our own country.

Yet I see lots of white people coming out for a convicted armed robber.

Your right
We should work together. Its the only way racism can be Defeated.

But it works both ways Bobby...... ...

Nor do you see anyone protesting about all the other institutionalised sexual abuse that has occurred throughout history.
Sexual abuse that has been, and continues to be, covered up and denied by people in authority. Sexual abuse that far outweighs anything Yaxely-Lennon brings to people's attention.
Yet you don't seem concerned about that. Weirdly, it would appear, that you are only concerned about BAME sexual abuse against white people.

Sexual abuse is investigated by law enforcement. Public protests, especially that displayed by Yaxely-Lennon severely risks the success of such investigations.
Racism is institutionalised, entrenched and endemic in society. Law enforcement can and does deal with provable instances of racism. It cannot deal with all the inequality brought about by that institutionalised racism, and its subsequent inequality, throughout history.
Only education, alongside law enforcement, and the subsequent lessening of inequality, over time, will achieve that.

 

[sodthisforfun]

And you see this do you?




You want me to protest for a armed criminal thousand of miles away.

Yet I see no black or brown faces coming out for all these young girls let down by the Police, local authorities and social workers in
Rotherham, Oxford or Oldham..... our own country.

Yet I see lots of white people coming out for a convicted armed robber.

Your right
We should work together. Its the only way racism can be Defeated.

But it works both ways Bobby...... ...

Racism and oppression of black people has a long history in the Western world. Seriously long. The other is a handful of evil bast-ards who have preyed on vulnerable, failed by society white girls because they were easy pickings.

Now tell me, do those white girls, or any white girls in the UK walk down the street and get unkind comments, veils ripped off, perhaps spat at etc because of their skin colour?

You cannot compare the two.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Mottie makes a very valid point -some of those protesters will die, some will take CV19 back to loved ones who will die.

its wrong to say 'direct it at the racists'

If Mottie, and everyone else, especially those that deny that there is a problem, had worked to eradicate racism, there would be no need for protests.
My argument is, if the underlying cause had been dealt with, even recognised that there is a problem, the symptom would not have appeared.
Yet some still deny that there is a problem.

 

[Bodd]

that doesnt justify being killed by a policeman, nor does it reduce the worth of those protesting.

Of course it doesn't. To be a policeman, you need to be a good person.
Yet if we had more black and brown faces out for these young girls in Charlotte or Austin rather than starting with Gun welding criminals like George Floyd or Mark Duggen then we might be united...

 

[Bodd]

If Mottie, and everyone else, especially those that deny that there is a problem, had worked to eradicate racism, there would be no need for protests.
My argument is, if the underlying cause had been dealt with, even recognised that there is a problem, the symptom would not have appeared.
Yet some still deny that there is a problem.

Including you

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Racism and oppression of black people has a long history in the Western world. Seriously long. You cannot compare the two.

I agree, but I would add that sexual abuse also has a long history, not just in western world, but throughout the globe.
It is opportunistic power over others.
In that respect, is it similar to racism, and other forms of discrimination?

 

[Bodd]

Racism and oppression of black people has a long history in the Western world. Seriously long. The other is a handful of evil bast-ards who have preyed on vulnerable, failed by society white girls because they were easy pickings.

Now tell me, do those white girls, or any white girls in the UK walk down the street and get unkind comments, veils ripped off, perhaps spat at etc because of their skin colour?

You cannot compare the two.

Are you having me on..... You tell that to a young girl standing in a room naked with all those grubby greasy hands all over her. Sick


For the record I would be the first to defend a young Muslim girl.