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What percentage of afro americans are murdered / killed by fellow afro Americans

 

[charliegolf]

93

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

He made a poor choice of words.

And he invented the anecdotal evidence. Why would he do that?

Thanks to racism always mostly being a low level thing

Unless you are on the receiving end of it.

He still essentially had the same view as politics when the Windrush arrived.

Was that why he was sacked from the cabinet and never held any post of worth for the remainder of his career?

Much of it is crap as further generations tend to become what I would call anglicised.

But they still suffer the same problems as their parents.

You might say then have the same problems as the rest of us.

Like racism and inequality?

It just takes a while

30, 40, 50 or 400 years?

and tends to happen when living standards improve. How many kids can I afford etc. Older people are supported in different ways in some societies or in some cases the entire family even if only one is working.

Except inequality remains.

The treatment of The Windrush people is when things started to go wrong for coloured immigrants.

So that's when racism started? And I thought it was 400 years before that.

 

[JohnD]

What percentage of afro americans are murdered / killed by fellow afro Americans

Hey, that's a great argument

"other people do wrong, therefore I am entitled to do wrong."

Is that what you say when you shoplift from Sainsburys?

 

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93

93

What?

93% of afro americans killed / murdered are victims of there fellow afro Americans

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

What percentage of afro americans are murdered / killed by fellow afro Americans

93

And what justice do the 7% get for being killed by white cops?


Also, what percentage of those black men killing black men occur in an affluent environment? And how many occur in an environment of inequality, poverty, unemployment and injustice?

 

[transam]

Hey, that's a great argument

"other people do wrong, therefore I am entitled to do wrong."

Is that what you say when you shoplift from Sainsburys?

Sainsburys

How have u come by that information

How have u gained access to confidential police records



You been hacking again or going were u are not supposed to go.

 

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And what justice do the 7% get for being killed by white cops?


Also, what percentage of those black men killing black men occur in an affluent environment? And how many occur in an environment of inequality, poverty, unemployment and injustice?

Blimey I only asked a question

What percentage of the population are afro americans in the USA?

 

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And what justice do the 7% get for being killed by white cops?


Also, what percentage of those black men killing black men occur in an affluent environment? And how many occur in an environment of inequality, poverty, unemployment and injustice?

Well I suppose u make a good point

Murder can be justified by inequality
Poverty and unemployment

 

[sxturbo]

They are not blaming other people. They are admitting that they were wrong, and recognising the influences in their lives.
Most would laud them for their openness and enlightenment. You think they are stupid.
As to your head sin ovens comment. It's a resort to ad absurdum argument.



And you deny the influence of others? Isn't this a perfect example of influence from others. They think the way they do, and you think they must be right, because you agree with them? Herd mentality in action?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_mentality#:~:text=Herd mentality, mob mentality and,, rather than rational, basis.
But you think it doesn't exist.


You are quite vitriolic about your opinion of the BLM movement.
Do you not think there is a severe need for greater equality, or is everything hunky-dory?



Those statues, which era do most of them refer to?

ok to further your ad absurdum argument, my whole family is west ham supporters, not because they are any good, but because they fondly remember the good old days of when the 66 world cup winners were mostly west ham players, me i could think for myself, i supported Arsenal (i've since given up on football altogether) one of my brothers supported Man United. People have the ability to think for themselves the fact they choose to not do so when they are carrying out something of which is bad or immoral makes them idiots. They are admitting that they were wrong but it was because of this that and the other, always have to blame someone, why not say because i'm an T--T and i didnt like the colour of their skin or any other reason to be a complete c*ck womble to. Kudos to them admitting they were wrong but it appears to me at least a half arsed apology.

please for the love of all that is holy, stop trying to put things out there that is not there. Stop trying to twist everything to help your cause. There is not a herd mentality just that no one i know of or have been in contact with agrees with the BLM movement.

that doesnt mean anything to do with herd immunity, its just that people do not agree with something.

i am vitriolic of the BLM movement, and so are many others. everyone agrees there is an equality issue and for varying reasons, but the current trend of "HATE THE WHITE MAN/WOMAN" or "PRIVILEGED WHITE" (many of us really are not privileged) and is not winning many people over, this was summed up in Anthony joshua's speech,

 

[sxturbo]

Well I suppose u make a good point

Murder can be justified by inequality
Poverty and unemployment

yep because working together and being respectful wouldn't improve their lives as a community nor bring businesses into the community to provide jobs etc. nope much better to shoot and kill each other that makes businesses move into the area...

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Blimey I only asked a question

What percentage of the population are afro americans in the USA?

Are you suggesting that all black men in US are living in poverty?
I'm reasonably confident that you are mistaken.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

ok to further your ad absurdum argument,... People have the ability to think for themselves the fact they choose to not do so when they are carrying out something of which is bad or immoral makes them idiots. They are admitting that they were wrong but it was because of this that and the other, always have to blame someone, ..

I'm sure they were accepting the fact that they were wrong. I didn't see them blaming anyone else. I saw them as being aware of how our identities are formed.
If you deny that internalisation, socialisation, parental and peer influence play a part in our identity, how do you explain how we become the people we are? Are we born racists? Are we born a Tory, or a Labour or a Communist? What shapes out lives if it's not parental, and peer pressure and herd mentality?

Kudos to them admitting they were wrong but it appears to me at least a half arsed apology.

So their apology was not sufficient for you?

There is not a herd mentality just that no one i know of or have been in contact with agrees with the BLM movement.

You deny that there is such a thing as herd mentality? You deny that there is such a thing as parental and peer pressure?
You haven't heard any of your contacts agree with the BLM movement, therefore it's wrong, it's misguided, it's divisive, it's counter-productive?

that doesnt mean anything to do with herd immunity, its just that people do not agree with something.

People tend to congregate with like-minded individuals. They do that so that their beliefs, their ideologies are not too badly questioned. Otherwise, if we mix with others, that have different views, we either undergo a change in our beliefs and ideologies, or we become a pariah within that social circle.

i am vitriolic of the BLM movement, and so are many others. everyone agrees there is an equality issue and for varying reasons, but the current trend of "HATE THE WHITE MAN/WOMAN" or "PRIVILEGED WHITE" (many of us really are not privileged) and is not winning many people over,

Your comments do not seem to agree with your statement, "everyone agrees there is an equality issue". Or maybe they do agree but are resistant to the changes that are required to address the issues.
Furthermore, if you see the BLM movement as "hate the white man", then you have serious comprehension problems.

 

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Are you suggesting that all black men in US are living in poverty?
I'm reasonably confident that you are mistaken.

Well all those who murdered fellow afro aneriicans must be??

How many afro americans are murdered by whites?

How many whites are murdered by afro americans?

 

[sxturbo]

I'm sure they were accepting the fact that they were wrong. I didn't see them blaming anyone else. I saw them as being aware of how our identities are formed.
If you deny that internalisation, socialisation, parental and peer influence play a part in our identity, how do you explain how we become the people we are? Are we born racists? Are we born a Tory, or a Labour or a Communist? What shapes out lives if it's not parental, and peer pressure and herd mentality?


So their apology was not sufficient for you? there not apologising to me so why does it matter whether i think its enough or not.


You deny that there is such a thing as herd mentality? You deny that there is such a thing as parental and peer pressure?
You haven't heard any of your contacts agree with the BLM movement, therefore it's wrong, it's misguided, it's divisive, it's counter-productive? not denying that herd mentality exists, however we all have the ability to make up our own minds as to whether we agree with something or not, at the end of the day we can have our own points of view which may or may not be swayed by others.


People tend to congregate with like-minded individuals. They do that so that their beliefs, their ideologies are not too badly questioned. Otherwise, if we mix with others, that have different views, we either undergo a change in our beliefs and ideologies, or we become a pariah within that social circle. that's not completely true, as it's not so black and white as that, there are many that mix with those that have differing beliefs and still have their own views and are not ostracised for it


Your comments do not seem to agree with your statement, "everyone agrees there is an equality issue". Or maybe they do agree but are resistant to the changes that are required to address the issues.
Furthermore, if you see the BLM movement as "hate the white man", then you have serious comprehension problems.

i'm not sure where your going with this, yes many people agree there is inequality in all walks of life and it is not all purely down to skin colour. I'm not resistant to change, i'm happy to change, but no ones said what change is required, i'm not racist, and i dont make racist remarks, i'm more than happy to employ someone from any background providing they can do the job and skin colour never comes to it, i would rather a black person whom can do the job than a white person who could do it half as well.

From what i have seen from the BLM movement it is very much hate the white person, as i said Anthony Joshua all but said this in his speech and this has been the general rhetoric published on social media, and other sources.

this will be the last time i explain myself to you, we are just going round in circles.

as i've stated previously, respect my opinion and lets leave it at that, we dont have to be wrong or right, we are each expressed a view, however you appear intent on trying to make me look stupid or racist and prove you are superior to myself, you most likely are.