How bad would no deal brexit" on top of the pandemic be?

[Mottie]

Wait till we’ve left with no deal. Wait till they start to make it hard for British tourists to go to the tourist destinations in France and Spain and Italy and then see what happens then. They’ve had a little taste of it during the pandemic. They didn’t like it.

 

[Notch7]

Nobody has the foggiest idea..not even the biggest moaners..notchyjondLAL.

its true we dont know how much Boris is hostage to the ERG

or his billionaire backers

but we do know the EU is far and away the UKs most important trade partner.........no deal would only be temporary.

 

[durhamplumber]

its true we dont know

So...let us wait and see.

 

[durhamplumber]

Wait till we’ve left with no deal. Wait till they start to make it hard for tourists to go to the tourist destinations in France and Spain and Italy and then what happens then. They’ve had a little taste of it during the pandemic. They didn’t like it.

V wise words Mottie...

 

[ajohn]

Brexit is down to right wing think tanks. That's what the ERG is and there are others as well. They tend to be globalists, free market and pretty far right.

The EU contradicts several of their beliefs and was intend to make life a bit tricky for them. It's protectionist.

 

[Notch7]

So...let us wait and see.

deal
no deal

both bad, no need to wait.

 

[Notch7]

V wise words Mottie...

not really

brexit wont alter travel plans to Europe

chavs will still get to Spain

 

[durhamplumber]

not really

brexit wont alter travel plans to Europe

chavs will still get to Spain

Matter of opinion Notchy..I happen to think it is wise.

 

[durhamplumber]

deal
no deal

both bad, no need to wait.

Goes without saying Mr Negative.

 

[teaboyjim]

I'm genuinely feeling worried and will be glad if a deal gets concretely established

 

[Notch7]

Goes without saying Mr Negative.

I'm just saying what the government thinks.

 

[fillyboy]

I'm just saying what the government thinks.

Relax Notch, we're sending in the gunboats.

Four navy ships to help protect fishing waters in case of no-deal Brexit | UK news | The Guardian

Four Royal Navy patrol ships will be ready from 1 January to help the UK protect its fishing waters in the event of a no-deal Brexit, in a deployment evoking memories of the “cod wars” in the 1970s.

The 80-metre-long armed vessels would have the power to halt, inspect and impound all EU fishing boats operating within the UK’s exclusive economic zone (EEZ), which can extend 200 miles from shore.

Naval sources said the deployment had been long planned, but it comes after Conservative ministers quietly doubled the total fleet of patrol ships from four to eight, partly in case of a crisis caused by a no-deal Brexit. “We have done a lot of work to ensure we are ready for every eventuality,” one insider said.

Although the offshore patrol ships carry machine guns, they would not be expected to use weapons against EU fishing boats. Instead they would aim to run alongside a vessel believed to be breaking the rules, boarding it for inspection if deemed necessary.

In extreme cases, an EU boat could be impounded and taken to the nearest UK port. “Nobody is going to be firing warning shots against French fishermen; firearms are only used when there is danger to life,” the navy source said.

Personally, I find this line a little worrying:

Although the offshore patrol ships carry machine guns, they would not be expected to use weapons against EU fishing boats.

 

[Notch7]

Relax Notch, we're sending in the gunboats

So

A refusal to agree fishing access just means no Market for UK fish

Another Brexit foot in mouth argument.

 

[ellal]

Wait till we’ve left with no deal. Wait till they start to make it hard for British tourists to go to the tourist destinations in France and Spain and Italy and then see what happens then. They’ve had a little taste of it during the pandemic. They didn’t like it.

Ah, the little englander 'they don't like it up 'em' approach...

Well guess what...

When this 'virus' thing ends all those destinations will have a market of 500 million people to entice travel to given the freedom of movement they will still enjoy...

Of course the UK will have to revert back to those quaint things called visas to visit/stay in 'exotic' European places...

Let alone the extra costs of health insurance/driving permits etc etc...

As will those wishing to gawp at the backward looking UK animals who caused this in the first place...

Guess who will come off worst!

 

[JohnD]

So...let us wait and see.

well that's certainly a very convincing argument in favor of Boris' Omnishambles.