It has been discussed and confirmed on these forums before.@winston Do you have any evidence to support this claim or is it another one of your made up “facts”?
I DON'T make up facts.
It has been discussed and confirmed on these forums before.@winston Do you have any evidence to support this claim or is it another one of your made up “facts”?
It has been discussed and confirmed on these forums before.
I DON'T make up facts.
It has certainly been asserted in this forum a good few times before (just as it was today) - but as for 'confirmed', I'm not so sure about that.It has been discussed and confirmed on these forums before.
I seem to recall the Post Office (or maybe BT) downgraded 13a plugs to 8a on their premises
The Post Office (before BT) downgraded 13 amp sockets to 8 amps on their premises for a reason.
You seem to change your story over time.I said the Post Office not BT.
It has been discussed and confirmed on these forums before.
Why wouldn't Dave be wrong?My mate Dave says it’s not true. This proves you wrong.
Of course it's not outside my experience.I really don't get it.
If I understand correctly, you're only saying this because the 15A/16A plugs/sockets don't have fuses, but I don't see what difference that makes, given that, even when plugs have fuses, there could be many of them connected to the same circuit simultaneously. Although BS1363 plugs each contain a fuse which cannot be more than 13A, on a typical 20A or 32A circuit one would have a dozen or two outlets into which a dozen or two such plugs, and their loads, could be plugged (representing a massive theoretical total load).
Would you say that to have multiple 13A (BS1363) outlets on a 20A radial was contrary to common sense, was bad practice and was outside of your experience?
Kind Regards, John
I was quite clear that plugs were downgraded to 8 amps
The Post Office (before BT) downgraded 13 amp sockets to 8amps
Why wouldn't Dave be wrong?
I'm forgetting nothing but, as I have said, I don't see that the nature of the socket (or associated plug) has got anything to do with what over-current protection the circuit requires (which is what concerns BS7671). Even in terms of common sense (regardless of the regs), a 20A circuit can be overloaded via a few plugs with 13A fuses just as well as via an unfused plug/socket.Of course it's not outside my experience. You seem to be quoting the reason that it is OK to have many multiple 13A sockets on a higher powered circuit then completely forgetting that when referring to other styles of socket.
I can confirm BT had many hundreds, maybe thousands of 13A sockets restricted to 3A or 5A [it is just possible I may have some with their sticky lables] but this was for a completely different reason. The exchanges originally had 5A cast iron sockets mounted on the older equipment racks but newer installations had 13A sockets, in order to avoid incompatibility they went through a program of changing the 5A sockets to 13A but they left the original 3/0.029 wiring and 5A fuse. The earlier lables showed 5A restriction but it creased a problem with 2 or more 'high power' devices in use so the later lables showed 3A restriction. That was nothing to do with socket or plug current carrying capabilities, just the wiring and as we are so often quoted 'the fuse is only to protect the cable'.The Post Office (before BT) downgraded 13 amp sockets to 8 amps on their premises for a reason.
You’re making this too easy for us
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