Afghanistan -is leaving the right thing?

[jeds]

You think bush and bliar were honest

I remember Blair saying on telly that if the public could see the intelligence reports we would come to the same conclusion that we have no choice but to go into Iraq. Yet, later, those 'intelligence reports' seemed to disappear.

 

[jeds]

My old man used to say; 'people make the mistake of thinking that everybody thinks the same way they do. They do not'.

He was an army man, desert specialist and spent a lot of time in the Middle East. He knew you couldn't apply Western thinking to people in that region but could never understood why the top brass couldn't work that out. That still stands today.

 

[gasbusters]

This is an eye opening and shocking interview a few days ago given by an Afghan with ties to the government. He explains some of the shocking realities that went on over there during the 20 year war. If you have a bit of time watch it.

 

[Android 07]

Yes the Hindu country that trained Bangladeshi fighters to fight its arch enemy Pakistan. India didnt get involved to help the Bangladeshis, it got involved to give Pakistan a bloody nose.

I know you guys have a thirst for blood and civil war and want to see more bloodshed in Afghanistan, but its unlikely to happen, much to your dissappointment.

Lets hope Afghsnistans major parties can come together and form a lasting government and bring peace to their country.

You on the other hand should focus on giving the Scots and Irish independence as you clearly love the idea and since millions in both these countries want it, im sure you'll help them....

India of course had it's own interests but they came to the rescue.

No one here is supporting the start of a civil war - get that through your head.

We want a safe area in Afghanistan for the local population where they are not controlled by Taliban. A nation is governed by a govt and the people elect who they want in the govt. The Taliban are not a decmocratically elected govt.

 

[IT Minion]

India of course had it's own interests but they came to the rescue.

No one here is supporting the start of a civil war - get that through your head.

We want a safe area in Afghanistan for the local population where they are not controlled by Taliban. A nation is governed by a govt and the people elect who they want in the govt. The Taliban are not a decmocratically elected govt.

Just under 50% of the world's population live in democracies. Most, just, live in non democratic nations.

There is no way the Taliban is going to hollow out a little democratic enclave. The reality of it is that the 40 million Afghans now live in a non democratic state.

 

[gasbusters]

India of course had it's own interests but they came to the rescue.

No one here is supporting the start of a civil war - get that through your head.

We want a safe area in Afghanistan for the local population where they are not controlled by Taliban. A nation is governed by a govt and the people elect who they want in the govt. The Taliban are not a decmocratically elected govt.

You do realise the Taliban are Afghans right?

You do also realise that for a guerilla campaign to be succesful you need massive support from the population right? As has happened.

You also realise the Taliban have always controlled around 80% of the countryside? They've been running a paralellel government for years.

As for democratically elected government? Such as? The US installed puppet regime of Hamid Karzai? Or the US imposed puppet regime of Ashraf Ghani? The US selecting a candidate then getting the afghans to choose him in a farcical vote isnt democracy

Make no mistake, you want a western imposed puppet regime running Afghanistan for the interests of the US and its allies. Dont you dare claim you give a sh1te about the Afghans. And civil war is exactly what some of you guys are desperate for if you dont get your way.

 

[gasbusters]

Just under 50% of the world's population live in democracies. Most, just, live in non democratic nations.

There is no way the Taliban is going to hollow out a little democratic enclave. The reality of it is that the 40 million Afghans now live in a non democratic state.

They were no more democratic under the deeply corrupt puppet regimes of Karzai or Ghani, and were worse off as there supporters engaged in rape, murder, drug smuggling, extortion. Why do you those supporters of the rehime were desperate to leave? They were gona face justice for their crimes and so ran for their lives.

 

[transam]

Suicide bomber near Kabul air port

numerous casualties apparently

 

[transam]

British government has warned all

commercial air liners operating over Afghanistan air space not to fly below
25 000 feet

 

[Captain Nemesis]

As for democratically elected government? Such as? The US installed puppet regime of Hamid Karzai? Or the US imposed puppet regime of Ashraf Ghani? The US selecting a candidate then getting the afghans to choose him in a farcical vote isnt democracy

But if the US doesnt do that they risk the people voting for someone the US doesnt want to win, as the Palestinians did in 2006, and then theyll have to start the hard job of covert destabilisation.

 

[transam]

The 250 / 300 woman judges / magistrates in Afghanistan are dead woman walking if they stay

 

[gasbusters]

But if the US doesnt do that they risk the people voting for someone the US doesnt want to win, as the Palestinians did in 2006, and then theyll have to start the hard job of covert destabilisation.

So then the US doesnt really believe in a true democracy, and all their claims of trying to bring democracy to these countries is complete lies.

 

[gasbusters]

The 250 / 300 woman judges / magistrates in Afghanistan are dead woman walking if they stay

Yes says Transam, the westerner whos never set foot in the middle east or south east asia....

 

[transam]

Suicide bomber near Kabul air port

numerous casualties apparently

Reports of 60 dead including 12 US troops ?

 

[Munroast]

Reports of 60 dead including 12 US troops ?

12 US troops - just heartbreaking, sad for the others too but the marines were so close to mission over and were only there trying to rescue others.

Biden should hang his head in shame orchestrating this utter catastrophe.